Outside of Sunday
A Christian women's podcast based in New Zealand, featuring genuine conversations, inspiring testimonies, and biblical encouragement to live out faith both in and outside of Sunday.
Episodes
Episode 234 - Insights On Spiritual Abuse & Biblical Discernment
We kick things off today with a blind reaction to the new Narnia trailer (we have thoughts), before getting into some more serious questions about spiritual abuse and biblical discernment. Reflecting on our conversation with Liz Gregory from the Gloriavale Leavers Support Trust, Laura and I chat about red flags in Christian communities, how Scripture can be twisted or used to control people, and w
Episode 233 - Helping 'Gloriavale' Members Leave & Rebuild: Liz Gregory
What does it take to help someone leave Gloriavale - and what happens once they’re out?In this episode, we’re joined by Liz Gregory from the Gloriavale Leavers Trust, who shares the remarkable story of a network of Christians working behind the scenes to help people leave the religious fundamentalist NZ cult: Gloriavale. Through secret phones, late-night conversations and a commitment to sharing t
Episode 232 - Insights On Faith, Politics & Endurance
In this Insights episode, Laura and I reflect on Part 2 of our conversation with Bob McCoskrie, chatting about everything from Christian perspectives on politics and voting to independent media, social media algorithms, and whether our faith is shaping our worldview or the other way around.We also get into what it means to endure through difficult seasons, stand firm in our convictions, and raise
Episode 231 - A Warning to New Zealand Christians: Bob McCoskrie, Part 2
In Part 2 of our chat with Bob McCoskrie from Family First, Bob has a warning for Christians in New Zealand: “The culture is turning up the heat on Christianity.” We chat about the growing challenges facing Christians, why speaking up about our faith matters, and what it looks like to stand firm in biblical truth when it’s not always popular. If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, click here to ca
Episode 230 - Insights on Christian Blessings & Boldness
Welcome back to another Insights episode with Christa and Laura, where we chat about what’s happening in the online Christian space and unpack some of the big ideas from our recent conversation with Bob McCoskrie from Family First. Click here to listen to part 1 of that convo...Now, this week we’re talking about Christian blessings and boldness - from why church still matters and the incredible be
Episode 229 - From Burnout to Building Family First: Bob McCoskrie, Part 1
This week we're joined by Bob McCoskrie from Family First New Zealand. But before the public debates, the advocacy work and 20 years of Family First, there was a young man with a heart for ministry, a love of radio and a passion for reaching people with the truth. Bob takes us back to life before Family First, sharing his Christian testimony, his years working with young people, and how burno
Episode 228 - Insights on Social Media, Screens & Patriotism
In this Insights episode, we’re starting with a look at what’s going on in the online Christian space and chatting about our new favourite show! Then we’re getting into our reflections on Part 2 of our chat with Nathan Seulei from Pillar NZ, looking at social media, screens, parenting and patriotism - and what all of these things can look like through a Christian lens.We unpack the conversation ar
Episode 227 - New Zealand Politics, Faith & Freedom: Nathan Seiuli, Part 2
Hey Outsiders! We're back with Part 2 of our conversation with Nathan Seiuli from Pillar NZ. If you haven't already listened to part 1 - click here!We’re diving deeper into New Zealand politics, faith and freedom - from the role of the media and the proposed under-16 social media ban, to Pillar’s advocacy work and its views on abortion and euthanasia. Nathan also shares why Christians sh
Episode 226 - Insights on Speaking Truth to Power
Click here to register for the Outsider Retreat, or here to register for the Saturday only. In this Insights episode, Laura and I unpack some of the key themes from part 1 of Nathan Seiuli’s interview, including speaking truth to power, the responsibility that comes with influence, and what it looks like to engage with politics without letting it consume us.We chat about how power can often corrup
Episode 225 - Ministry Prepared Me for Politics: Nathan Seiuli, Part 1
What happens when God takes you somewhere you never expected to go?In Part 1 of our conversation with Nathan Seiuli from Pillar NZ, we hear the story behind how Nathan went from working in church ministry, to the Free Speech Union, and eventually to founding Pillar NZ.Nathan shares about his Christian background, the unexpected doors that opened for him in political spaces and the media, and why h
Episode 224 - Insights on Hospitality & Trusting God When Life Hurts
In this Insights episode, Laura and I unpack some of the big themes from Emma Robinson’s interview - from hospitality and opening our homes to others, to the much harder questions we wrestle with when life doesn’t go the way we hoped.Laura talks about spending time in the Word and shares about her miscarriage. We also discuss infertility, grief and the question “What happens to babies who die in t
Episode 223 - Bold Prayers & Being a Woman in Ministry: Emma Robinson, Part 2
In Part 2 of my conversation with Emma Robinson, we’re getting into some of the harder and more faith-stretching parts of her story - learning to pray bold prayers while still trusting God with the outcome, navigating seasons of waiting, and finding purpose even when life doesn’t look the way you hoped it would. We also talk about the words that can hurt when you’re walking through infertility, an
Episode 222 - Thinking Matters Conference Wrap-Up
In this episode, Laura and I are taking you behind the scenes of the Thinking Matters No Rivals conference in Auckland! We chat about some of our highlights from the weekend - from meeting the next generation of Christian thinkers to hearing from speakers like Annaliese and Nic Blackie, Dave Mann, Dr Luke Barnes and Abdu Murray, and recording some really great conversations along the way.More than
Episode 221 - Faith, Infertility & Unexplainable Peace: Emma Robinson, Part 1
What happens when the life you thought you’d have doesn’t go according to plan? In this episode, I’m sitting down with Emma Robinson from Your Jesus Time to hear her story of growing up in a Christian home, coming to personally understand the gospel, studying at Bible college, meeting her husband, and finding your purpose in God. Emma also shares vulnerably about her journey of trying to start a f
Episode 220 - Insights on Modesty, Postpartum & Trusting God
In this week’s Insights episode, Laura and I are talking honestly about motherhood, postpartum struggles and trusting God through the changing seasons of life. Laura shares her own experience with postpartum depression as we discuss the heartbreaking Lindsay Clancy case, the challenges many new mothers face, and the importance of support, understanding and taking postpartum mental health seriously
Episode 219 - Lessons from Christian Dating & Finding My Passion: Aleisha, Part 2
Click here for part 1!In Part 2 of our conversation with Aleisha, we unpack some of the lessons she learned from her Christian dating experience. From protecting your heart and not rushing relationships, to navigating boundaries, spiritual intimacy and learning to enjoy the season of singleness, Aleisha shares honestly about some of the things she wishes she had done differently - and the advice s
Episode 218 - Insights on Teen Dating: Should Christians Date Young?
In this Insights episode, Laura and I are talking teen dating! After reflecting on Aleisha's story of growing up in a Christian home and navigating dating, we're chatting about the blessings of a Christian heritage and teen dating - should Christians date young??We get into the big conversation: what should Christian dating actually look like? Is having a crush wrong? How do we talk to o
Episode 217 - My Millennial Christian Dating Experience: Aleisha Liebezeit, Part 1
I’m joined by Aleisha Liebezeit for a fun and very honest conversation about growing up Christian and the tangle of Christian dating. We’re reminiscing on growing up as a millennial Christian, making her faith her own as a teenager, and even how she “stalked” her future husband and got his number at 13! But behind the funny stories is a much deeper conversation about teenage relationships, heartbr
Episode 216 - Insights on Purpose: It’s Not What You Think
What if finding your purpose isn’t about discovering one big thing God wants you to do?In this ‘Insights’ episode, we’re starting today by discussing the recent spectator ban at Saturday netball in Tauranga. Then Laura and I unpack what purpose really looks like for a Christian, reflecting on Ine-Marí Venter’s story of identity, netball and learning to glorify God through her sport. We explore why
Episode 215: Why I Kneel After Every Game - Ine-Mari Venter, Part 2
Click here for part 1!In Part 2 of our chat with professional netballer Ine-Marí Venter, we dive deeper into her journey in professional sport, from the highs of representing South Africa at the Commonwealth Games to the disappointment of being benched, losing her contract and eventually reaching a point where she almost walked away from netball. Ine-Marí shares how God changed her why when it com
Episode 214 - Insights On M*sturbation, Purity & What the Bible Says
In this Insights episode, Laura and I are going places we honestly never thought we’d go on the podcast... Starting today by reacting to some intense videos from Abolitionists Rising and the discussion around abortion, conviction, compassion and the beautiful truth that forgiveness is found in Christ. Then we're unpacking our conversation with Ine-Mari Venter, particularly her incredibly hone
Episode 213 - Faith, Netball and My Secret Addiction: Ine-Mari Venter, Part 1
In this episode, I’m joined by professional netballer Ine-Marí Venter for a VERY honest chat about faith, netball, purpose and a secret struggle she carried for years.Ine-Marí shares her journey growing up in a Dutch Reformed Church and not really understanding what it meant to have a relationship with God, before discovering a deep and personal faith in Christ. We chat about her professional netb
Episode 212 - Insights on People over Politics
Following our chat with Chantelle Baker, we're reflecting on what it means to navigate politics, disagreement and public controversy as followers of Christ.In this episode, we share some of our own thoughts on what Scripture says about authority, forgiveness and righteous anger. We're also talking about the importance of listening and extending grace to those we disagree with.Whether you
Episode 211 - Ukraine, Lawsuits & Faith in Politics: Chantelle Baker, Part 3
Click here to listen to part 1 or here to listen to part 2.In Part 3 of our conversation with Chantelle Baker, we explore some of the most challenging experiences she's faced over recent years.Chantelle reflects on her time reporting from Ukraine, the backlash that followed, and why she believes it changed her perspective on war and human suffering. She also shares why she chose to take legal
Episode 210 - What Really Happened at the Parliament Protest? Chantelle Baker, Part 2
The 2022 Parliament protest became one of the most significant and divisive events in New Zealand's recent history. But what was it like to be there?In Part 2 of our conversation, Chantelle Baker shares her firsthand account of the protest, reflects on the media coverage and political response, and responds to some of the biggest claims surrounding those 23 days. We also discuss the importanc
Episode 209 - Faith, Media & Controversy: Chantelle Baker, Part 1
Chantelle Baker became one of New Zealand's most recognisable - and controversial - public figures during the COVID years. But behind the headlines, who is she really?In Part 1 of this conversation, Chantelle reflects on life before the spotlight, what it's like being labelled a "conspiracy theorist," whether trust in the media and politicians can be restored, and how a Christi
Episode 208 - Insights On the Holy Spirit: Truth or Hype?
In this Insights episode, Laura and I reflect on Part 2 of our conversation with Paris Vashti, unpacking some of the questions that came up around healing, miracles, prayer and the work of the Holy Spirit. We have an honest conversation about the tensions Christians often wrestle with - from being cautious because of counterfeits, to potentially missing out on biblical practices like prayer, layin
Episode 207 - Healing, Miracles & Ministry: Paris Vashti, Part 2
In Part 2 of our conversation with Paris, after sharing her own miraculous healing journey, Paris opens up about why some people experience healing while others continue to wait, what it looks like to trust God through suffering, and why she believes Christians should continue praying boldly and believing that God still moves today.Paris also shares remarkable stories of healing she's witness
Episode 206 - Insights On The Comment Section & The Heart of Worship
In this Insights episode, we reflect on the huge response to our recent conversation and social media content with Henare Whaanga, and why it's so important to weigh everything against Scripture and truth rather than assumptions.We also unpack Paris Vashti's testimony about one comment that left her believing she was worshipping God "wrong" for years. It leads us into a deeper
Episode 205 - Shut Down During Worship & Miraculously Healed: Paris Vashti, Part 1
Growing up as a pastor's kid, Paris Vashti loved Jesus - but after one comment at a Christian conference, she spent years believing she was "worshipping wrong." What followed was a long battle with fear, insecurity, and feeling unable to freely worship God.Later, chronic migraines turned her world upside down. After years of daily pain, hospital visits, scans, and unanswered questi
Episode 204 - Insights on Christianity, Politics & Matariki
This week Laura and I tackle a couple of topics we've genuinely been wrestling with. We discuss Brian Tamaki's suspended firearms licence, what role Christians should play in politics, and whether we're called to fight for our beliefs—or faithfully suffer for them.We also reflect on part two of my conversation with Henare Whaanga, including his thoughts on Matariki, Māori culture, a
Episode 203 - Matariki, Te Tiriti & Māori Spirituality: Henare Whaanga, Part 2
In Part 2 of our conversation with Henare Whaanga, we move into some of the practical questions New Zealand Christians are wrestling with today.Should Christians celebrate Matariki? What does Toitū te Tiriti actually mean? How should believers respond when they're expected to participate in Māori religious practices at work, school, or community events?Henare also shares his own journey after
Episode 202 - Insights On Viral Conversions: Christ Above Culture
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I chat through a couple of topics that have been getting a lot of people talking lately: viral conversions and what it really means to keep Christ above culture.We start by discussing Alex Reads Tarot's recent testimony and what the Bible shows us about genuine repentance. How should we respond when someone publicly professes faith? Wha
Episode 201 - The Toughest Questions on Māori & Christianity: Henare Whaanga, Part 1
Last year, I had the privilege of interviewing Henare at the Thinking Matters Conference. Clips from that conversation reached hundreds of thousands online, sparking passionate discussion from people on all sides. Recently, Henare joined me again to unpack some of the biggest questions surrounding Māori identity, Christianity, and colonisation - and to respond to some of the criticism.In the first
Episode 200 - Insights on Why Christian Self-Sufficiency Doesn't Work
In this special 200th episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I sit down for another Insights conversation as we reflect on some of the themes that surfaced in part two of Sonia Barrish's testimony and unpack a topic that keeps coming up again and again: our tendency to rely on ourselves instead of God.We begin by talking about the recent backlash surrounding Israel Folau and the double stand
Episode 199 - Sleep Deprivation Broke Me: Sonia Barrish, Part 2
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, Sonia continues her testimony by sharing the frightening reality of severe sleep deprivation and the mental and physical toll it took on her life. As her health rapidly declined, she experienced terrifying blackouts, medical intervention, and a season of being completely stripped back.Sonia opens up about what recovery looked like, how her family navigated thi
Episode 198 - Insights on Loving Through Secondary Issues
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura reflect on the recent conversations surrounding women in ministry and explore how Christians can hold differing convictions on secondary issues while still preserving unity and loving one another well. They discuss the importance of humility, the example of the early church, and why our love for fellow believers should be one of the
Episode 197 - More Than Urban Self-Sufficiency: Sonia Barrish, Part 1
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa sits down with Sonia from Urban Self Sufficiency, from transforming an ordinary suburban section into a thriving food-producing garden (that harvests over 500 kilograms of food each year!!) to raising a family with self-sufficiency at its heart, Sonia shares practical wisdom, honest reflections, and encouragement for anyone wanting to start where they
Episode 196: Insights on Trusting Christ in a Confused Culture
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura reflect on several conversations currently shaping the Christian space online. They discuss the recent abortion announcement from Jesse and Ashley Ridgeway, explore John Lennox's appearance on Diary of a CEO, and share reflections from Rebekah Heslop's powerful testimony. Along the way, they discuss friendship as a foundati
Episode 195 - He said "I Love You" and Stopped Breathing: Rebekah Heslop, Part 2
In Part 2 of my conversation with Rebekah Heslop, we dive into an extraordinary love story that began long before either of them realised where it would lead. Rebekah shares how her husband pursued her for years, the terrifying allergic reaction that nearly took his life, and the final words he spoke before he stopped breathing.We also explore Rebekah's cancer journey, the loss of her voice,
Episode 194 - Insights on Earthly vs Heavenly Adoption
In this week's Insights episode, we reflect on Rebekah Heslop's testimony and the powerful biblical picture of adoption that runs throughout Scripture.What does it mean to be adopted into God's family? Is adoption the whole story, or does Jesus offer us something even deeper? Join us as we explore being born again, the significance of baptism and communion, and the incredible privil
Episode 193 - Finding My Birth Mother Didn't Fix Everything: Rebekah Heslop, Part 1
In this episode - the first we are releasing from our South Island recording series - I sit down with Rebekah Heslop to hear her story. Rebekah was adopted at just 10 days old, she shared with us the internal feeling of rejection that followed her into adulthood, and into her radical return to Christ.Even though Rebekah always knew she was adopted, loved and cherished by her adopted parents, she s
Episode 192 - South Island Debrief & Can Christians Disagree?
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura catch up after Christa’s South Island trip - reflecting on answered prayers, unexpected moments, and some of the stories from the road.They also unpack the conversation sparked by Phylicia Masonheimer’s recent episode on women in ministry, diving into what it looks like to disagree as Christians without losing unity. From secondary i
Episode 191 - Why We’ve Been Quiet
In this solo episode of Outside of Sunday, I wanted to sit down and give you a bit of a life and podcast update - including why we’ve moved to one episode a week for a short season.I'm talking about our upcoming South Island recording trip and the heart behind why we’re doing it. I also talk about the verse that has become such an anchor for me as we prepare for this new season of recordings.
Episode 190 - Woman in Ministry and Biblical Balance: Phylicia Masonheimer
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, we sit down with Phylicia Masonheimer, founder of Every Woman a Theologian, for an honest and thought-provoking conversation about faith and what it means to be a woman passionate about ministry.Phylicia shares her powerful testimony - from growing up in a Christian home to walking through a hidden addiction at a young age, and ultimately finding true freedom
Episode 189 - Insights on Helping vs Nagging in Marriage
In this Insights episode, Christa and Laura unpack a topic many wives wrestle with - the difference between helping and nagging. With honesty and biblical insight, they talk through communication in marriage, checking our motives, and learning how to approach our husbands with wisdom and grace.Along the way, they reflect on the freedom we have in Christ, the beauty of God’s design for marriage, an
Episode 188 - I Made A Covenant: Chantelle Nunez, Part 2
In part two of Chantelle’s story, the journey continues through heartbreak, hard biblical questions, and the painful reality of a marriage falling apart. At the centre of this episode is a deep conviction Chantelle carried through it all: I made a covenant. She shares what it looked like to cry out to God in despair, seek to honour Christ in an unequally yoked marriage, and wrestle firsthand with
Episode 187 - Insights on Wisdom & Boundaries in Christian Dating
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura open up a candid conversation about Christian dating - from boundaries to red flags, wedding jitters, and the deeper purpose of marriage itself. With wisdom, laughter, and a few vulnerable stories along the way, this episode invites you to think more deeply about relationships, purity, expectations, and what it means to pursue marria
Episode 186 - I Thought I Married a Christian: Chantelle Nunez, Part 1
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, Chantelle shares a deeply personal testimony all about faith, love, and how things don’t always turn out the way we hope.Chantelle grew up in New Zealand, came to know and love Jesus from a young age, and genuinely wanted to honour Him with her life. When she started a relationship with someone who didn’t know Christ, it was complicated - but over time, things
Episode 185 - Insights on Loving (or Resisting) Biblical Truth
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura open up a thoughtful and honest conversation around our response to biblical truth - do we love it, or resist it?Reflecting on Julie Colbeth’s recent episodes, we revisits powerful moments and quotes that challenge the way we approach God, truth, and sincerity. From the tension between appearance and reality, to the danger of coming
Episode 184 - Whispers of Grace Takeover, Part 4: Mistakes
In this final episode of the Whispers of Grace takeover on Outside of Sunday, Julie leans into a confronting but necessary conversation around mistakes—and the way we approach God.Looking at both Old and New Testament accounts, this episode gently but honestly exposes the danger of coming to God on our own terms. From Cain to Nadab and Abihu, Uzzah, and Ananias and Sapphira, we’re reminded that si
Episode 183 - Whispers of Grace Takeover, Part 3: Ministry
In this third takeover episode of Outside of Sunday, Julie Colbeth from Whispers of Grace continues her powerful teaching series - this time turning to the heart of ministry.Drawing from the Old Testament priesthood and the ordination process in Exodus, Julie unpacks how ministry with God has always been rooted in something deeper than what we do - it flows from grace, and connection with God.From
Episode 182 - Whispers of Grace Takeover, Part 2: Method
In this second takeover episode of Outside of Sunday, Julie Colbeth from Whispers of Grace continues her four-part teaching series - this time exploring the method behind how we serve God.Following on from 'Motivation', this episode shifts the focus from why we serve to how we serve - and it might not look the way you expect.This episode gently challenges the way we view our gifts, remin
Episode 181 - Whispers of Grace Takeover, Part 1: Motivation
In this special takeover episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa hands the mic over to Julie Colbeth from Whispers of Grace for the first of a four-part teaching series - and it couldn’t come at a better time.As Christa takes a break over the school holidays, Julie brings a rich and grounding message on motivation - the heart behind why we serve.Looking at the lives of Abraham, Joseph, Moses, and th
Episode 180 - Insights on Mary, Thomas and the Resurrection
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura reflect on the resurrection of Jesus and some of the powerful moments that happened straight after it. From Mary Magdalene being the first to see the risen Lord to why Thomas is often labelled “the doubter”, this conversation gently explores what faith really looks like - especially when questions and doubts are part of the journey.They also
Episode 179 - Insights on Easter & Christ's Suffering
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura sit down to talk about Easter - the beauty of it, the weight of it, and the suffering of Jesus at the centre of it all. From Good Friday to the reality of what crucifixion actually involved, they reflect on what Jesus willingly endured and why it matters so deeply for us today.Along the way they talk about the meaning of the blood of
Episode 178 - Insights on Children, Justice and Jesus
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura reflect on Part 2 of Stacy’s testimony and the deeper conversations that came out of it. From Laura’s honest postpartum journey to the difference between real wisdom and superficial advice, this episode moves gently through some of the harder but important truths that often don’t get spoken about.Together, they talk about the value o
Episode 177 - Pregnant at 15: Stacy's Story, Part 2
In Part 2 of Stacy’s story, the conversation takes an unexpected turn. What began as a story of teenage pregnancy and abortion becomes a powerful testimony of God’s grace, redemption, and healing.Stacy shares how, now married with 3 children, she unexpectedly fell pregnant again - but this time, everything was different. She then looks back and shares about coming to Christ, only to learn just mon
Episode 176 - Insights on The Christian Response to Abortion
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I open the conversation around abortion, culture, and what it means to respond as Christians.Reflecting on Stacy's story, we explore the deeper cultural shifts shaping today’s views on pregnancy and abortion, from ancient pagan practices to modern parallels. We share sobering statistics, highlight encouraging pro-life advocacy, and gent
Episode 175 - Pregnant at 15: Stacy's Story, Part 1
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, I sit down with Stacy to hear her story.In Part 1, Stacy shares what it was like growing up with drug-dealing parents - but still in a loving home. Despite that, her teenage years quickly spiralled into rebellion. At just fifteen, she found herself pregnant and facing a decision she never imagined she would have to make. Stacy talks about telling her parents,
Episode 174 - Insights on Bible Reading: A Blessing, Not a Burden
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I continue our conversation following our recent episode with Julia, reflecting on what it actually looks like to read the Bible consistently in real life. We talk about reading the Bible from beginning to end, what our own Bible reading rhythms look like, and how we make space for it in the middle of busy family life. Along the way, we also
Episode 173: The Bible is NOT about You - Julia Messer
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, I sit down with Julia to hear her story of moving from Switzerland to New Zealand and pursuing deeper biblical training through YWAM. We talk about her time at the Discipleship Training School and the School of Biblical Studies, and why learning to read the Bible in its historical and cultural context can completely change the way we understand God’s word. Jul
Episode 172: Insights on Scars, Faith & The 'Flat Mate' Zone
In this Outside of Sunday Christa and Laura reflect on Therina Oliver’s powerful testimony of walking through breast cancer, and then Leukaemia with her son. They unpack how Therina’s own suffering became a profound way God prepared Matthew for his journey. Delving into thoughts around Jesus keeping His scarsAlong the way, Christa and Laura also touch on marriage drifting into “flat-mate zone”, le
Episode 171: Giving My Son Back to God - Therina Oliver, Part 2
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, we continue our conversation with Therina Oliver. After recently walking through her own breast cancer diagnosis, Therina found herself back in crisis when her young son Matthew was rushed to hospital and later diagnosed with leukaemia. She shares what it was like to face another devastating diagnosis so soon after her own recovery, and how God gently prepared
Episode 170: Insights on The God Who Goes Before Us
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura is back (yay!) and today we reflect on Part One of our chat with Therina Oliver.We unpack some of the moments that have stayed with us - from the gratitude of building a new life in New Zealand, to the quiet ways God prepares our hearts before hard seasons arrive. We also explore the mind-bending reality of God’s omnipresence - that He is everyw
Episode 169: New Country. New Baby. Breast Cancer. - Therina Oliver, Part 1
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, recorded at our very first Outsider Retreat, I’m joined by Therina as she shares her breast cancer journey. Just after finishing breastfeeding her youngest, she discovered a lump - and at 31 years old, was diagnosed with breast cancer. Therina opens up about processing that diagnosis with the Lord, choosing to put God first in the middle of fear, and the way H
Episode 168: Insights on the Epstein Files & Leaving Room for the Holy Spirit
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, I’m reflecting on Part Two of my conversation with Jess from Craft to Christ and sharing some of my own thoughts on what it actually looks like to “leave room for the Holy Spirit”. From listener comments, my thoughts on the release of the Epstein Files, to some deeper conversations around spiritual discernment, demons, submission, and prayer - this ep
Episode 167: Leaving Witchcraft, Facing Christians - Jessica Murray, Part 2
In Part Two of our chat with Jessica Murphy from Craft to Christ, we focus on the Christian backlash she faced after leaving witchcraft and choosing to follow Jesus.Jess opens up about the judgement and suspicion she experienced from other believers, and how painful it can be when the very community meant to offer love and support becomes a source of hurt. We talk about how this impacts new conver
Episode 166: Insights on Witchcraft (Psst, We Don’t Need to Fear It)
In today's Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, I'm reflecting on Part One of our chat with Jessica Murphy from Craft to Christ and respond to some of the listener reactions and themes that came up. I talk about the reality of witchcraft and familiar spirits, how New Age practices can lead us into spiritual bondage, and why we don’t need to live in fear. This episode is really about no
Episode 165 - "Successful" Witch Leaves it all for Jesus: Jessica Murray, Part 1
In this two-part episode of Outside of Sunday, I sit down with Jessica Murray from Craft to Christ, who shares her powerful testimony of encountering Jesus and leaving witchcraft (including her successful witchcraft business).Jess opens up about her journey from growing up around limited Christianity to becoming deeply involved in modern witchcraft. We talk about spirit guides, familiar spirits, i
Episode 164 - Todd White, Discernment & Moving Forward
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura unpack further exposures within the charismatic Christian world. Drawing on their own background in faith healing spaces, they reflect honestly on figures like Todd White, discuss why these patterns have persisted for so long, and explore how gifting, charisma, and powerful testimonies can sometimes be elevated above faithfulness, character,
Episode 163 - Reacting to Shawn Bolz Revelations
In this ‘welcome back’ episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I reflect on the summer season - from mum life and recent episodes, to processing heavy news closer to home and within the wider Church. We share our thoughts on the Mount Maunganui tragedy, and then gently but honestly unpack the recent revelations surrounding internationally renowned ‘prophet’ Shawn Bolz.From toxic honour culture and
Episode 162 - Outsider Retreat Q&A Session
In this Q&A episode of Outside of Sunday, Julie Colbeth and Destiny Calhoon answer honest questions from our Outsider Retreat attendees. From faith and forgiveness, seasonal depression and church community, to homeschooling and the realities of being a pastor’s wife, this episode dives into the complexities of following God in real life.Click here to watch this episode on YouTube.0:00 – Intro0
Episode 161 - Outsider Retreat: Destiny Calhoon (Session 3)
This episode of Outside of Sunday features a recording from the Outsider Retreat in 2025 with Destiny Calhoon - a woman whose story is marked by deep suffering, unwavering faith, and radical trust in God.From a near-death car accident and frightening pregnancy complications, to a breast cancer diagnosis while pregnant and the excruciating pain of topical steroid withdrawal, Destiny shares how her
Episode 160 - Outsider Retreat: Julie Colbeth (Session 2)
Click here to check out Julie's incredible podcast Whispers of Grace. In this second session from the Outsider Retreat, Julie Colbeth brings a powerful and grace-filled word as she lifts the veil of shame and leads us back to the foot of the cross. Through Scripture and honest reflection, she unpacks the beauty of brokenness and why following Jesus calls us to die to self - not to harm us, bu
Episode 159 - Outsider Retreat: Julie Colbeth (Session 1)
In this inspiring session from the 2025 Outsider Retreat, our friend Julie Colbeth opens God’s Word and gently brings us back to the simplicity of the gospel through 1 John.Many of us know we are saved - yet we can experience seasons where it doesn’t feel that way. Julie helps us make sense of the gap between what we experience and what Scripture teaches, reminding us not to hide in the darkness,
Episode 158 - The Parts of Mission Life We Don’t Talk About: Féy Cotter, Part 2
In Part 2 of our chat with Féy from European Christian Mission, we step into the harder side of mission life - a part that’s often unseen and rarely talked about.Féy shares honestly about walking through her son’s mental health struggles while continuing to serve on the mission field. We talk about what it’s really like to come home from overseas mission work, how you discern whether to return, an
Episode 157 - Called to Albania & the Cost of Obedience: Féy Cotter, Part 1
In Part 1 of our chat with Féy Cotter from European Christian Mission we begin by tracing the early foundations of a life shaped by faith, obedience, and mission.Féy shares about her childhood, developing a strong belief in God from a young age, and the slow, faithful unfolding of God’s call - eventually leading their family to the mission field in Albania.This episode explores the realities of mi
Episode 156 - No Formula for Evangelism: Miriam Shilston, Part 2
In Part 2 of our chat with Miriam, she shares her heart for evangelism. From leaving her job and joining Catalyst Movement, to unpacking why there is no formula for reaching people with the gospel, this episode is a grounded and honest look at obedience, courage, and trusting God. Miriam also opens up about what excites her most about Catalyst right now, and how she lives her faith outside of Sund
Episode 155 - Faith, Disillusion, and Christian Dating: Miriam Shilston, Part 1
In Part 1 of our conversation, we sit down with Miriam and trace the foundations of her faith journey - from growing up in Warkworth as a pastor’s kid to navigating a secular high school with a (self-confessed) immature faith.Miriam shares openly about how her view of God has matured over time, her missionary work in Africa, and how it unfortunately led to a season of disillusionment.The conversat
