
Outside of Sunday
A Christian women's podcast based in New Zealand, featuring genuine conversations, inspiring testimonies, and biblical encouragement to live out faith both in and outside of Sunday.
Episodes
Episode 204 - Insights on Christianity, Politics & Matariki
This week Laura and I tackle a couple of topics we've genuinely been wrestling with. We discuss Brian Tamaki's suspended firearms licence, what role Christians should play in politics, and whether we're called to fight for our beliefs—or faithfully suffer for them.We also reflect on part two of my conversation with Henare Whaanga, including his thoughts on Matariki, Māori culture, a
Episode 203 - Matariki, Te Tiriti & Māori Spirituality: Henare Whaanga, Part 2
In Part 2 of our conversation with Henare Whaanga, we move into some of the practical questions New Zealand Christians are wrestling with today.Should Christians celebrate Matariki? What does Toitū te Tiriti actually mean? How should believers respond when they're expected to participate in Māori religious practices at work, school, or community events?Henare also shares his own journey after
Episode 202 - Insights On Viral Conversions: Christ Above Culture
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I chat through a couple of topics that have been getting a lot of people talking lately: viral conversions and what it really means to keep Christ above culture.We start by discussing Alex Reads Tarot's recent testimony and what the Bible shows us about genuine repentance. How should we respond when someone publicly professes faith? Wha
Episode 201 - The Toughest Questions on Māori & Christianity: Henare Whaanga, Part 1
Last year, I had the privilege of interviewing Henare at the Thinking Matters Conference. Clips from that conversation reached hundreds of thousands online, sparking passionate discussion from people on all sides. Recently, Henare joined me again to unpack some of the biggest questions surrounding Māori identity, Christianity, and colonisation - and to respond to some of the criticism.In the first
Episode 200 - Insights on Why Christian Self-Sufficiency Doesn't Work
In this special 200th episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I sit down for another Insights conversation as we reflect on some of the themes that surfaced in part two of Sonia Barrish's testimony and unpack a topic that keeps coming up again and again: our tendency to rely on ourselves instead of God.We begin by talking about the recent backlash surrounding Israel Folau and the double stand
Episode 199 - Sleep Deprivation Broke Me: Sonia Barrish, Part 2
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, Sonia continues her testimony by sharing the frightening reality of severe sleep deprivation and the mental and physical toll it took on her life. As her health rapidly declined, she experienced terrifying blackouts, medical intervention, and a season of being completely stripped back.Sonia opens up about what recovery looked like, how her family navigated thi
Episode 198 - Insights on Loving Through Secondary Issues
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura reflect on the recent conversations surrounding women in ministry and explore how Christians can hold differing convictions on secondary issues while still preserving unity and loving one another well. They discuss the importance of humility, the example of the early church, and why our love for fellow believers should be one of the
Episode 197 - More Than Urban Self-Sufficiency: Sonia Barrish, Part 1
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa sits down with Sonia from Urban Self Sufficiency, from transforming an ordinary suburban section into a thriving food-producing garden (that harvests over 500 kilograms of food each year!!) to raising a family with self-sufficiency at its heart, Sonia shares practical wisdom, honest reflections, and encouragement for anyone wanting to start where they
Episode 196: Insights on Trusting Christ in a Confused Culture
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura reflect on several conversations currently shaping the Christian space online. They discuss the recent abortion announcement from Jesse and Ashley Ridgeway, explore John Lennox's appearance on Diary of a CEO, and share reflections from Rebekah Heslop's powerful testimony. Along the way, they discuss friendship as a foundati
Episode 195 - He said "I Love You" and Stopped Breathing: Rebekah Heslop, Part 2
In Part 2 of my conversation with Rebekah Heslop, we dive into an extraordinary love story that began long before either of them realised where it would lead. Rebekah shares how her husband pursued her for years, the terrifying allergic reaction that nearly took his life, and the final words he spoke before he stopped breathing.We also explore Rebekah's cancer journey, the loss of her voice,
Episode 194 - Insights on Earthly vs Heavenly Adoption
In this week's Insights episode, we reflect on Rebekah Heslop's testimony and the powerful biblical picture of adoption that runs throughout Scripture.What does it mean to be adopted into God's family? Is adoption the whole story, or does Jesus offer us something even deeper? Join us as we explore being born again, the significance of baptism and communion, and the incredible privil
Episode 193 - Finding My Birth Mother Didn't Fix Everything: Rebekah Heslop, Part 1
In this episode - the first we are releasing from our South Island recording series - I sit down with Rebekah Heslop to hear her story. Rebekah was adopted at just 10 days old, she shared with us the internal feeling of rejection that followed her into adulthood, and into her radical return to Christ.Even though Rebekah always knew she was adopted, loved and cherished by her adopted parents, she s
Episode 192 - South Island Debrief & Can Christians Disagree?
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura catch up after Christa’s South Island trip - reflecting on answered prayers, unexpected moments, and some of the stories from the road.They also unpack the conversation sparked by Phylicia Masonheimer’s recent episode on women in ministry, diving into what it looks like to disagree as Christians without losing unity. From secondary i
Episode 191 - Why We’ve Been Quiet
In this solo episode of Outside of Sunday, I wanted to sit down and give you a bit of a life and podcast update - including why we’ve moved to one episode a week for a short season.I'm talking about our upcoming South Island recording trip and the heart behind why we’re doing it. I also talk about the verse that has become such an anchor for me as we prepare for this new season of recordings.
Episode 190 - Woman in Ministry and Biblical Balance: Phylicia Masonheimer
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, we sit down with Phylicia Masonheimer, founder of Every Woman a Theologian, for an honest and thought-provoking conversation about faith and what it means to be a woman passionate about ministry.Phylicia shares her powerful testimony - from growing up in a Christian home to walking through a hidden addiction at a young age, and ultimately finding true freedom
Episode 189 - Insights on Helping vs Nagging in Marriage
In this Insights episode, Christa and Laura unpack a topic many wives wrestle with - the difference between helping and nagging. With honesty and biblical insight, they talk through communication in marriage, checking our motives, and learning how to approach our husbands with wisdom and grace.Along the way, they reflect on the freedom we have in Christ, the beauty of God’s design for marriage, an
Episode 188 - I Made A Covenant: Chantelle Nunez, Part 2
In part two of Chantelle’s story, the journey continues through heartbreak, hard biblical questions, and the painful reality of a marriage falling apart. At the centre of this episode is a deep conviction Chantelle carried through it all: I made a covenant. She shares what it looked like to cry out to God in despair, seek to honour Christ in an unequally yoked marriage, and wrestle firsthand with
Episode 187 - Insights on Wisdom & Boundaries in Christian Dating
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura open up a candid conversation about Christian dating - from boundaries to red flags, wedding jitters, and the deeper purpose of marriage itself. With wisdom, laughter, and a few vulnerable stories along the way, this episode invites you to think more deeply about relationships, purity, expectations, and what it means to pursue marria
Episode 186 - I Thought I Married a Christian: Chantelle Nunez, Part 1
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, Chantelle shares a deeply personal testimony all about faith, love, and how things don’t always turn out the way we hope.Chantelle grew up in New Zealand, came to know and love Jesus from a young age, and genuinely wanted to honour Him with her life. When she started a relationship with someone who didn’t know Christ, it was complicated - but over time, things
Episode 185 - Insights on Loving (or Resisting) Biblical Truth
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura open up a thoughtful and honest conversation around our response to biblical truth - do we love it, or resist it?Reflecting on Julie Colbeth’s recent episodes, we revisits powerful moments and quotes that challenge the way we approach God, truth, and sincerity. From the tension between appearance and reality, to the danger of coming
Episode 184 - Whispers of Grace Takeover, Part 4: Mistakes
In this final episode of the Whispers of Grace takeover on Outside of Sunday, Julie leans into a confronting but necessary conversation around mistakes—and the way we approach God.Looking at both Old and New Testament accounts, this episode gently but honestly exposes the danger of coming to God on our own terms. From Cain to Nadab and Abihu, Uzzah, and Ananias and Sapphira, we’re reminded that si
Episode 183 - Whispers of Grace Takeover, Part 3: Ministry
In this third takeover episode of Outside of Sunday, Julie Colbeth from Whispers of Grace continues her powerful teaching series - this time turning to the heart of ministry.Drawing from the Old Testament priesthood and the ordination process in Exodus, Julie unpacks how ministry with God has always been rooted in something deeper than what we do - it flows from grace, and connection with God.From
Episode 182 - Whispers of Grace Takeover, Part 2: Method
In this second takeover episode of Outside of Sunday, Julie Colbeth from Whispers of Grace continues her four-part teaching series - this time exploring the method behind how we serve God.Following on from 'Motivation', this episode shifts the focus from why we serve to how we serve - and it might not look the way you expect.This episode gently challenges the way we view our gifts, remin
Episode 181 - Whispers of Grace Takeover, Part 1: Motivation
In this special takeover episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa hands the mic over to Julie Colbeth from Whispers of Grace for the first of a four-part teaching series - and it couldn’t come at a better time.As Christa takes a break over the school holidays, Julie brings a rich and grounding message on motivation - the heart behind why we serve.Looking at the lives of Abraham, Joseph, Moses, and th
Episode 180 - Insights on Mary, Thomas and the Resurrection
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura reflect on the resurrection of Jesus and some of the powerful moments that happened straight after it. From Mary Magdalene being the first to see the risen Lord to why Thomas is often labelled “the doubter”, this conversation gently explores what faith really looks like - especially when questions and doubts are part of the journey.They also
Episode 179 - Insights on Easter & Christ's Suffering
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura sit down to talk about Easter - the beauty of it, the weight of it, and the suffering of Jesus at the centre of it all. From Good Friday to the reality of what crucifixion actually involved, they reflect on what Jesus willingly endured and why it matters so deeply for us today.Along the way they talk about the meaning of the blood of
Episode 178 - Insights on Children, Justice and Jesus
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura reflect on Part 2 of Stacy’s testimony and the deeper conversations that came out of it. From Laura’s honest postpartum journey to the difference between real wisdom and superficial advice, this episode moves gently through some of the harder but important truths that often don’t get spoken about.Together, they talk about the value o
Episode 177 - Pregnant at 15: Stacy's Story, Part 2
In Part 2 of Stacy’s story, the conversation takes an unexpected turn. What began as a story of teenage pregnancy and abortion becomes a powerful testimony of God’s grace, redemption, and healing.Stacy shares how, now married with 3 children, she unexpectedly fell pregnant again - but this time, everything was different. She then looks back and shares about coming to Christ, only to learn just mon
Episode 176 - Insights on The Christian Response to Abortion
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I open the conversation around abortion, culture, and what it means to respond as Christians.Reflecting on Stacy's story, we explore the deeper cultural shifts shaping today’s views on pregnancy and abortion, from ancient pagan practices to modern parallels. We share sobering statistics, highlight encouraging pro-life advocacy, and gent
Episode 175 - Pregnant at 15: Stacy's Story, Part 1
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, I sit down with Stacy to hear her story.In Part 1, Stacy shares what it was like growing up with drug-dealing parents - but still in a loving home. Despite that, her teenage years quickly spiralled into rebellion. At just fifteen, she found herself pregnant and facing a decision she never imagined she would have to make. Stacy talks about telling her parents,
Episode 174 - Insights on Bible Reading: A Blessing, Not a Burden
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I continue our conversation following our recent episode with Julia, reflecting on what it actually looks like to read the Bible consistently in real life. We talk about reading the Bible from beginning to end, what our own Bible reading rhythms look like, and how we make space for it in the middle of busy family life. Along the way, we also
Episode 173: The Bible is NOT about You - Julia Messer
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, I sit down with Julia to hear her story of moving from Switzerland to New Zealand and pursuing deeper biblical training through YWAM. We talk about her time at the Discipleship Training School and the School of Biblical Studies, and why learning to read the Bible in its historical and cultural context can completely change the way we understand God’s word. Jul
Episode 172: Insights on Scars, Faith & The 'Flat Mate' Zone
In this Outside of Sunday Christa and Laura reflect on Therina Oliver’s powerful testimony of walking through breast cancer, and then Leukaemia with her son. They unpack how Therina’s own suffering became a profound way God prepared Matthew for his journey. Delving into thoughts around Jesus keeping His scarsAlong the way, Christa and Laura also touch on marriage drifting into “flat-mate zone”, le
Episode 171: Giving My Son Back to God - Therina Oliver, Part 2
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, we continue our conversation with Therina Oliver. After recently walking through her own breast cancer diagnosis, Therina found herself back in crisis when her young son Matthew was rushed to hospital and later diagnosed with leukaemia. She shares what it was like to face another devastating diagnosis so soon after her own recovery, and how God gently prepared
Episode 170: Insights on The God Who Goes Before Us
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura is back (yay!) and today we reflect on Part One of our chat with Therina Oliver.We unpack some of the moments that have stayed with us - from the gratitude of building a new life in New Zealand, to the quiet ways God prepares our hearts before hard seasons arrive. We also explore the mind-bending reality of God’s omnipresence - that He is everyw
Episode 169: New Country. New Baby. Breast Cancer. - Therina Oliver, Part 1
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, recorded at our very first Outsider Retreat, I’m joined by Therina as she shares her breast cancer journey. Just after finishing breastfeeding her youngest, she discovered a lump - and at 31 years old, was diagnosed with breast cancer. Therina opens up about processing that diagnosis with the Lord, choosing to put God first in the middle of fear, and the way H
Episode 168: Insights on the Epstein Files & Leaving Room for the Holy Spirit
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, I’m reflecting on Part Two of my conversation with Jess from Craft to Christ and sharing some of my own thoughts on what it actually looks like to “leave room for the Holy Spirit”. From listener comments, my thoughts on the release of the Epstein Files, to some deeper conversations around spiritual discernment, demons, submission, and prayer - this ep
Episode 167: Leaving Witchcraft, Facing Christians - Jessica Murray, Part 2
In Part Two of our chat with Jessica Murphy from Craft to Christ, we focus on the Christian backlash she faced after leaving witchcraft and choosing to follow Jesus.Jess opens up about the judgement and suspicion she experienced from other believers, and how painful it can be when the very community meant to offer love and support becomes a source of hurt. We talk about how this impacts new conver
Episode 166: Insights on Witchcraft (Psst, We Don’t Need to Fear It)
In today's Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, I'm reflecting on Part One of our chat with Jessica Murphy from Craft to Christ and respond to some of the listener reactions and themes that came up. I talk about the reality of witchcraft and familiar spirits, how New Age practices can lead us into spiritual bondage, and why we don’t need to live in fear. This episode is really about no
Episode 165 - "Successful" Witch Leaves it all for Jesus: Jessica Murray, Part 1
In this two-part episode of Outside of Sunday, I sit down with Jessica Murray from Craft to Christ, who shares her powerful testimony of encountering Jesus and leaving witchcraft (including her successful witchcraft business).Jess opens up about her journey from growing up around limited Christianity to becoming deeply involved in modern witchcraft. We talk about spirit guides, familiar spirits, i
Episode 164 - Todd White, Discernment & Moving Forward
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura unpack further exposures within the charismatic Christian world. Drawing on their own background in faith healing spaces, they reflect honestly on figures like Todd White, discuss why these patterns have persisted for so long, and explore how gifting, charisma, and powerful testimonies can sometimes be elevated above faithfulness, character,
Episode 163 - Reacting to Shawn Bolz Revelations
In this ‘welcome back’ episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I reflect on the summer season - from mum life and recent episodes, to processing heavy news closer to home and within the wider Church. We share our thoughts on the Mount Maunganui tragedy, and then gently but honestly unpack the recent revelations surrounding internationally renowned ‘prophet’ Shawn Bolz.From toxic honour culture and
Episode 162 - Outsider Retreat Q&A Session
In this Q&A episode of Outside of Sunday, Julie Colbeth and Destiny Calhoon answer honest questions from our Outsider Retreat attendees. From faith and forgiveness, seasonal depression and church community, to homeschooling and the realities of being a pastor’s wife, this episode dives into the complexities of following God in real life.Click here to watch this episode on YouTube.0:00 – Intro0
Episode 161 - Outsider Retreat: Destiny Calhoon (Session 3)
This episode of Outside of Sunday features a recording from the Outsider Retreat in 2025 with Destiny Calhoon - a woman whose story is marked by deep suffering, unwavering faith, and radical trust in God.From a near-death car accident and frightening pregnancy complications, to a breast cancer diagnosis while pregnant and the excruciating pain of topical steroid withdrawal, Destiny shares how her
Episode 160 - Outsider Retreat: Julie Colbeth (Session 2)
Click here to check out Julie's incredible podcast Whispers of Grace. In this second session from the Outsider Retreat, Julie Colbeth brings a powerful and grace-filled word as she lifts the veil of shame and leads us back to the foot of the cross. Through Scripture and honest reflection, she unpacks the beauty of brokenness and why following Jesus calls us to die to self - not to harm us, bu
Episode 159 - Outsider Retreat: Julie Colbeth (Session 1)
In this inspiring session from the 2025 Outsider Retreat, our friend Julie Colbeth opens God’s Word and gently brings us back to the simplicity of the gospel through 1 John.Many of us know we are saved - yet we can experience seasons where it doesn’t feel that way. Julie helps us make sense of the gap between what we experience and what Scripture teaches, reminding us not to hide in the darkness,
Episode 158 - The Parts of Mission Life We Don’t Talk About: Féy Cotter, Part 2
In Part 2 of our chat with Féy from European Christian Mission, we step into the harder side of mission life - a part that’s often unseen and rarely talked about.Féy shares honestly about walking through her son’s mental health struggles while continuing to serve on the mission field. We talk about what it’s really like to come home from overseas mission work, how you discern whether to return, an
Episode 157 - Called to Albania & the Cost of Obedience: Féy Cotter, Part 1
In Part 1 of our chat with Féy Cotter from European Christian Mission we begin by tracing the early foundations of a life shaped by faith, obedience, and mission.Féy shares about her childhood, developing a strong belief in God from a young age, and the slow, faithful unfolding of God’s call - eventually leading their family to the mission field in Albania.This episode explores the realities of mi
Episode 156 - No Formula for Evangelism: Miriam Shilston, Part 2
In Part 2 of our chat with Miriam, she shares her heart for evangelism. From leaving her job and joining Catalyst Movement, to unpacking why there is no formula for reaching people with the gospel, this episode is a grounded and honest look at obedience, courage, and trusting God. Miriam also opens up about what excites her most about Catalyst right now, and how she lives her faith outside of Sund
Episode 155 - Faith, Disillusion, and Christian Dating: Miriam Shilston, Part 1
In Part 1 of our conversation, we sit down with Miriam and trace the foundations of her faith journey - from growing up in Warkworth as a pastor’s kid to navigating a secular high school with a (self-confessed) immature faith.Miriam shares openly about how her view of God has matured over time, her missionary work in Africa, and how it unfortunately led to a season of disillusionment.The conversat
Episode 154 - Looking Back, Looking Ahead: Your Questions & Our Vision
Thankful for so much! In this final episode of 2025, Laura and I sit down to reflect on the year that’s been for Outside of Sunday. Neither of us expected this to be so emotional! We share some of the podcast stats and milestones from the year, talk honestly about the highs and the hard moments, and give a bit of behind-the-scenes insight into what it actually looks like to run this ministry day t
Episode 153 - Insights on Parenting in a High-Tech Age
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I reflect on Part 2 of my recent conversation with Kristen from Defend Young Minds, unpacking the things that lingered with us afterwards. We talk honestly about the growing use of AI, the question of whether our kids’ faces belong on public social media, and how much technology is actually helpful in family life.We also spend time discussin
Episode 152 - The Mental Health Harms of P*rnography and What Parents Can Do: Kristen Jenson, Part 2
Click here to watch this episode on YouTube.In Part 2 of our conversation with Kristen from Defend Young Minds, we dive deeper into the mental health harms of pornography and what addiction can look like in young people. Kristen shares practical, hope-filled guidance for parents—what to do if your child has already been exposed, how shame and secrecy keep kids trapped, and why today’s devices and
Episode 151 - Insights on S*x, P*rnography, and the Power of First Mention
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I unpack some of the big themes raised in Kristen’s conversation about protecting our kids in a world soaked in technology. We talk openly about our own first exposures to pornography, why it’s no longer just an “adult issue,” and how the internet has become the biggest gateway for children today.We dig into practical questions every parent
Episode 150 - P*rn-Proofing Children in a Digital World: Kristen Jenson, Part 1
Click here to watch this episode on YouTube.In this week’s episode of Outside of Sunday, I sit down with Kristen Jenson from Defend Young Minds - a leading voice in protecting children from the harms of pornography.Kristen shares how a heartbreaking story of sibling abuse first moved her to create the book Good Pictures Bad Pictures, and we talk honestly about why equipping our kids is one of the
Episode 145 - Insights on Kiwi Accent Trolls, Christmas Hype & Unity
In today’s Insights episode, get ready for a relaxed (and slightly silly) chat sparked by our incredible previous guest, Riley Kehoe. From troll comments about my “hideous” Kiwi accent to why I genuinely believe Christians should be the most excited people at Christmas - it’s definitely tangent city, but I hope it blesses you and leaves you with a smile on your face.And while there’s plenty of lig
Episode 144: Courage, Calling & Contentment - Riley Kehoe, Part 2
In part two of our chat with Riley, she opens up about the life-altering moments that shaped her faith - from the tsunami she survived in part one, to (in this episode) the split-second courage it took to help save a drowning man in the middle of a stormy ocean. Riley shares honestly about facing death head-on, what those moments revealed about God, and how they matured her walk with Jesus.We also
Episode 143: How I Survived the Boxing Day Tsunami - Riley Kehoe, Part 1
In part 1 of this powerful testimony, Riley Kehoe shares how her childhood trip to Thailand in 2004 turned life-changing. At just ten years old, Riley and her family experienced the 9.1 earthquake and the devastating tsunami that followed - the deadliest natural disaster of the 21st century.From prophetic dreams that led her family to New Zealand, to the moment she saw the wave racing toward them,
Episode 142 - Truth Matters' Reflections & The Man on the Deserted Island
In today's episode, I'll be sharing an update regarding Amelia Fowler, and reflect on her beautiful legacy of faith. I'm also taking a look at some of your comments from Henare’s viral clip, react to Wes Huff’s episode, and touch on the Cookie Time controversy (yes, really).Later in the episode, we will switch to a recording from the Truth Matters conference, where Laura and I sat d
Episode 141: Our Musical Gospel Project - Aaron & Emma Falconer
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, I sit down with Aaron and Emma Falconer — the amazing husband-and-wife duo behind Come and Know Me. Their passion for Christ and the gospel is inspiring and I'm incredibly grateful for their mission to platform scriptural truth is such a creative way. It's beautiful. Aaron and Emma share the heart behind Come and Know Me, the impact it’s having here
Kiwi Snacks & Christian Chats with Wesley Huff
In this special episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa sits down with Christian apologist and podcaster Wesley Huff for some Kiwi Snacks and Christian Chats! From Grainwaves and Pineapple Lumps to L&P and Whittaker’s, every snack comes with a big question about life, truth, and living out our faith.Wes shares how his pursuit of truth shapes his faith, what life has been like since appearing on
Episode 139 - The Fight Against Child Exploitation: Child Rescue
Today's episode is a sobering one, but such an important listen. I sat down with Tony and Louisa from Child Rescue at the Thinking Matters 'Truth Matters' conference. Child Rescue is an organisation working to locate and free children trapped in exploitation around the world.In this episode you'll hear what this work actually looks like - where the children are being rescued fr
Episode 138 - The Most Strategic Christian Harvest Field You've Never Heard of, Todd Funk
This chat was recorded at the Truth Matters Conference - and it wasn’t even supposed to happen! Todd Funk stepped in at the last minute to fill in for astrophysicist Dr. Luke Barnes, and with no prep and no plan, we hit record and went with the flow. What came out was one of the most genuine and inspiring conversations as Todd shared his passion with us.Todd talks about how the 4–14 window is the
Episode 137 - Can Christianity and Te Ao Māori Coexist? Henare Whaanga, Part 2
In this second part of our chat with Henare Whaanga, we pick up where we left off - asking what’s contributed to the shift away from Christianity in Māoridom, and whether faith and culture can truly coexist. If you’ve ever wrestled with how to honour your culture while following Christ, I hope this conversation will bless you.Henare shares his thoughts on navigating identity, subjectivism, and the
Episode 136 - Christianity, Colonisation, and Māori Identity: Henare Whaanga, Part 1
In this episode, I sit down with Henare Whaanga at the Truth Matters Conference for an honest chat about faith and identity. Henare shares his journey to Christ and what it’s been like walking with Jesus as Māori - which hasn’t always been easy...We tackle big questions too, like whether Christianity was just a tool of colonisation, and how forgiveness radically shaped Māori in the 19th century. I
Episode 135 - Insights on Spiritual Growth
In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura start by catching up on the very first Outsider Retreat - sharing a few highlights, from late-night karaoke to a beautiful shared communion. Then, they reflect on MK’s powerful two-part episode, revisiting the story, their reactions, and the deeper lessons about faith, surrender, and spiritual growth that came through it all. From Th
Episode 134 - Doctors Missed my Daughters Life-Threatening Condition: MK, Part 2
In part two of MK’s story, we pick up right where things left off. Harlee had just been born - the baby MK had longed for - but right from the start, she could tell something wasn’t right. And when the doctors said everything was fine, her mother’s intuition kept telling her that something was seriously wrong.What followed was a long stretch of sleepless nights, confusion, hospital visits, and mom
Episode 133 - Boarding School & Marriage: Held Together by Jesus: Marethie, Part 1
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, we're sitting down with Marethie (MK) to hear her journey of faith across continents and seasons of life. Growing up in South Africa, MK experienced stability and challenges - from boarding school days and navigating teenage faith to facing bankruptcy as a family and the life-changing move to New Zealand. MK shares about meeting her husband, building a l
Episode 132 - Insights on Saying 'Yes' to God's Purpose
In this Insights episode, Laura and I are reflecting on some of the themes that came out of Dianna’s story. We talk about how love needs to be more than just words, the power of one person saying “yes” to God, and what it really looks like to walk in the works He’s prepared for us.We share some of our own challenges and Laura brings her perspective on what it means to be made in God’s image. It wa
Episode 131 - Abuse, Justice, and Redemption: Dianna Bautista, Part 2
In part one, we heard about Dianna’s ministry reaching women in the brothels of Pattaya and beyond. In this second part, we step into her own story - growing up in California, walking away from God while enjoying success in Hollywood, and the pain of abuse that marked her childhood and married life.But her testimony doesn’t end in brokenness. Dianna shares how truth came to light, justice was done
Episode 130 - Outreach in a Brothel: Dianna Bautista, Part 1
In this moving episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa speaks with Dianna from Free Rain International, an organisation dedicated to rescuing and restoring victims of s*x trafficking. From the heartbreaking reality of life in slums and brothels to the story of the very first girl freed, Dianna shares the challenges, victories, and gospel-centered hope at the heart of their work. Together they discus
Episode 129 - New Zealand Christians Respond to Charlie Kirk's M*rder
Hey Outsiders, this week’s episode is a little different. Laura and I are taking time to reflect on the shocking m*rder of Charlie Kirk and the way it’s impacted Christians here in New Zealand and around the world. We’re also joined by the hosts of The Conservative Pentecostal, Phil Me In, and Whispers of Grace podcasts, who share their own thoughts and encouragement.Something has shifted. For man
Episode 128: Are Demons REALLY Fallen Angels? Deep Dive with Allen
In this episode, I sit down with my cousin Allen - our very first male guest on Outside of Sunday! We dive deep into a topic that’s fascinating and a little mind-bending: angels, demons, and everything in between.We unpack misconceptions, explore cherubim, seraphim, the Nephilim, and even touch on the book of Enoch and UFOs - all while keeping a focus on what the Bible actually says, and making it
Episode 127: Why we need both Testimonies and Theology - 'Her Theology' Collab
In this special collab with 'Her Theology', Christa sits down with Cass to talk about why the church needs both real testimonies and solid theology. One without the other just doesn’t work - we need stories that remind us of God’s goodness, and truth from Scripture to keep us grounded.But this is OOS, so of course the conversation doesn’t end there! Cass and Christa go down all kinds of
Episode 126: Insights on K-Pop Demon Hunters
In this Insights episode, we're diving into something that’s been on everyone’s radar - the animated movie K-Pop Demon Hunters. After Lydia’s testimony last week (where she shared so much about her encounters with demons), it felt right to pull these two together - taking the opportunity to learn from her experience and compare what we see in the movie with the word of God.I’ll share a bit of
Episode 125: Leaving Same-Sex Relationships and a Miraculous Physical Healing - Lydia Healey, Part 2
In part two of our chat with Lydia, she shares her incredible journey of transformation in Christ. Building on her battles with addiction, witchcraft, and demonic oppression, Lydia opens up about once believing she could be an LGBT Christian - until she was confronted with the Word of God and realised she had to walk away. She testifies to God’s miraculous healing of her endometriosis, His call to
Episode 124: From S*lf-Harm & Demons to a Life Surrendered to Christ - Lydia Healey, Part 1
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Episode 122: From Botched Surgery to Bold Faith Conversations - Janneke Kirikiri, Part 2
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Episode 121: Hidden Pride & Becoming a Step-Mum - Janneke Kirikiri, Part 1
In this episode of Outside of Sunday, we’re sitting down with Janneke - a fellow Christian podcaster whose faith took on new depth when pride was revealed in her heart and the unexpected journey of becoming a step-mum later in life. Raised in a strong Christian home, Janneke wrestled with pride in her so-called “faithfulness,” only to be gently humbled by God and refined through deep study of His
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