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Juggernaut 2: The Story of the Fourth National Government

Juggernaut 2: The Story of the Fourth National Government

The Spinoff 15 Episodes Sep 4, 2026

This podcast continues the story of New Zealand's political history, focusing on the fourth National government that governed from 1990 to 1999. It covers the major events and reforms of that decade, including economic restructuring, Crown-Māori relations, a leadership coup, and the introduction of the MMP electoral system. The series features interviews with key political figures from the era. It is produced with support from NZ On Air.

Episodes

The future diplomat who let down Muldoon’s tyres the night he called a snap election
The future diplomat who let down Muldoon’s tyres the night he called a snap election Sep 4, 2026 200 On the evening of June 14 1984, Sir Robert Muldoon called a snap election. Then he got drunk. But when the prime minister went to drive his own car home to Vogel House in Lower Hutt, he was stymied: his beloved Triumph 1500 had a flat tyre. Who was it that took the air out of the tyre? Follow At Large with Toby Manhire now on ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts,⁠⁠ ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠, or wherever you get
Episode 6: The Prime Minister Is Not a Person
Episode 6: The Prime Minister Is Not a Person Dec 8, 2025 3739 New Zealand’s first MMP government gets off to a rocky start, beset by boxer-short scandals and lousy poll numbers. Jim Bolger declares “springtime for New Zealand”, but the economic weather won’t play ball. He leaves for Europe oblivious to the plans being cooked up by a small, secretive group of MPs called “The Te Puke Bypass Committee”. When Bolger returns from overseas, Doug Graham is there t
Episode 5: The Seven Generations Fight
Episode 5: The Seven Generations Fight Dec 1, 2025 3721 The 1990s in New Zealand have dawned with images of harmony projected to the world, but longstanding divisions still acute at home. The Bolger government comes to power promising to uphold the Treaty and provide redress for injustice.  Negotiations over the Sealords fishery quota and with two of Aotearoa’s largest iwi, Waikato Tainui and Ngāi Tahu face pushback from all directions: in cabinet and
Episode 4: One for a Party, One for a Person
Episode 4: One for a Party, One for a Person Nov 24, 2025 4044 It took an extraordinary cocktail of events to bring proportional representation to New Zealand – everything from political cock-ups to public screams of resentment. This is the story of a country that decides to tear up its electoral plumbing – and what it does next. As the country chooses MMP, it also puts Jim Bolger back in power, but by the very narrowest of margins. Winston Peters and Jim An
Episode 3: Bugger the Pollsters
Episode 3: Bugger the Pollsters Nov 17, 2025 3183 After some of the most hectic months in the history of New Zealand politics, Jim Bolger faces a white-knuckle byelection in Tamaki. In the seat vacated by the pugnacious Rob Muldoon, even the National candidate seems to be standing against the government.  With the impacts of radical and painful reforms still raw, a general election rapidly approaches. It will go right down to the wire, and serve
Episode 2: The Mother of All Budgets
Episode 2: The Mother of All Budgets Nov 10, 2025 3035 A mood of protest sweeps New Zealand in 1991, sometimes spilling over into violence, as the reform machine powers on. Benefits are slashed, the Employment Contracts Act fundamentally reshapes the labour market, the health system is restructured, and Jim Bolger U-turns on a “no ifs, no buts, no maybes” promise around superannuation. Here Ruth Richardson tells the story of the Mother of All Budgets
Episode 1: A Decent Society
Episode 1: A Decent Society Nov 10, 2025 2953 After the breakneck reforms of the 80s, Jim Bolger’s promise of a calmer, more inclusive New Zealand hits the spot. Emerging from the shadow of Muldoon and shaking off the nuclear baggage, Bolger leads the National Party to a landslide victory under the “decent society” banner. But even before the celebrations are done, the hangover hits: the state-owned BNZ is on the brink, and the government boo
Juggernaut 2: Out now
Juggernaut 2: Out now Oct 19, 2025 69 The award-winning podcast returns to tell the story of a Juggernaut reborn for the 90s in National blue. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Season 1, bonus episode: Ross Vintiner - The Lange I Knew
Season 1, bonus episode: Ross Vintiner - The Lange I Knew Jul 24, 2024 4229 Ross Vintiner was right by David Lange's side in opposition and in government as his head of press. If you enjoyed the Juggernaut series on the fourth Labour government, you'll enjoy his insights into the singular figure of Lange and the whirl of the ninth floor across those wild years. Juggernaut was made with the support of NZ On Air. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoice
Season 1, Episode 6: Breakup
Season 1, Episode 6: Breakup Jul 17, 2024 3100 The Lange-Douglas relationship frays further as the prime minister unilaterally pulls the pin on a flat tax package signed off by cabinet. A furious Douglas flies back from Europe, but the split only deepens, as Lange declares it’s time for radical reforms to pause and calls for a “cup of tea” and the two Beehive offices go to war, with Douglas loyalists putting the blame on Lange’s lover, Margare
Season 1, Episode 5: Nine Day Wonder
Season 1, Episode 5: Nine Day Wonder Jul 10, 2024 3060 At the urging of the gay community, Fran Wilde takes the homosexual law reform bill to parliament in 1985. The campaign encounters fierce resistance from MPs on both the National and Labour sides of the house. Is it fair for Labour today to claim it as a party triumph? At the same time, strides are being taken in introducing the Treaty of Waitangi into political and legal structures, as part of a
Season 1, Episode 4: Quantum Leap
Season 1, Episode 4: Quantum Leap Jul 3, 2024 2628 Roger Douglas’s radical overhaul of the NZ economy kicks through the gears. A new investor class gets high on champagne and shares. What could go wrong? A bonfire of subsidies leaves farmers on their knees. Corporatisation sends thousands of state workers to the dole queue. Labour is returned to power in 1987 despite a campaign with starkly contrasting messages. For Lange, victory is bittersweet.

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