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When the Facts Change

When the Facts Change

The Spinoff 254 Episodes Jul 15, 2026

When the Facts Change, hosted by journalist Bernard Hickey, is a weekly guide to the intersection of economics, business, and politics in Aotearoa New Zealand. Presented by The Spinoff, the podcast is currently on hiatus and open for sponsorship.

Episodes

At Large with Toby Manhire: Is the Reserve Bank’s blunt tool just too blunt?
At Large with Toby Manhire: Is the Reserve Bank’s blunt tool just too blunt? Jul 15, 2026 2130 Since 1990 the Reserve Bank has been tasked with taming inflation independently from the government of the day. But is the tool it uses today, the official cash rate, with its focus on hitting an inflation rate of 1%-3%, causing more pain that it’s alleviating? Bernard Hickey joins Toby to make the case. Plus, in How Good, Liam Rātana on NZ Wars: Stories of Waerenga-a-Hika. Follow At Large with
Going up after digging down
Going up after digging down Jul 10, 2025 1624 Billions has been spent on the construction of Auckland’s City Rail Link, largely at the cost of taxpayers and ratepayers. The current Auckland council zoning rules, however, prevent the building of high-rise residential and commercial buildings at Mt Eden, Kingsland and Morningside stations. Sooner or later, something has got to give. CBRE director of residential research Tamba Carleton joins Be
To cut or not to cut?
To cut or not to cut? Jul 3, 2025 1217 The Reserve Bank gets another chance to cut interest rates next week. So far 2025 has seen the RBNZ make three consecutive cuts to the official cash rate, which was widely expected by economists up and down the country. But next week, for the first time this year, there’s doubt. Kiwibank economist Sabrina Delgado joins Bernard Hickey to assess our central bank’s options leading into next week’s m
Post Covid hybrid work
Post Covid hybrid work Jun 19, 2025 1873 Many bosses now want their workers back in the office full time, but for a while in the immediate aftermath of Covid, workers had the power to demand the flexibility to stay home. Now the jobs market has sagged, the balance has shifted and a new hybrid way of working is becoming more common. Bernard Hickey speaks on this week’s When The Facts Change with Robert Half NZ MD Megan Alexander about the
How big do we want to be?
How big do we want to be? Jun 12, 2025 1909 It’s no secret that Aotearoa is facing a range of monumental infrastructure challenges — much has been made lately of the state of our water pipes, ferries, railways and roads. Successive generations of decision makers have kicked the infrastructure maintenance can down the road, and now we are facing a huge bill if we want to keep pace with our growing population. Infrastructure NZ chief execut
An abundance of energy
An abundance of energy Jun 5, 2025 2052 ‘Abundance’ is the hottest word in the political economy right now all around the world. A book by Derek Thompson and Ezra Klein called ‘Abundance: How we build a better future’ argues the centre-left should adopt urbanisation and electrification as central aims to improve affordability of housing and transport, rather than framing emissions reduction as an expensive and painful necessity that the
Dissension in the RBNZ ranks
Dissension in the RBNZ ranks May 29, 2025 1457 The Reserve Bank cut the Official Cash Rate this week, as expected, but one of the six members of the bank’s rate setting committee voted to hold the OCR. That surprised markets and pushed up the wholesale interest rates that drive fixed mortgage rates. Bernard Hickey speaks with Kiwibank’s Mary Jo Vergara about a very uncertain outlook for rates in the wake of Donald Trump’s Liberation Day shock.
Budget special: When The Facts Change x Gone By Lunchtime
Budget special: When The Facts Change x Gone By Lunchtime May 22, 2025 1771 In the year of growth, Nicola Willis has presented a growth budget. But does the Investment Boost initiative, which speeds up depreciation for businesses, promise the kind of growth that the economy needs? In this special Spinoff pod for budget day, Toby Manhire asks Bernard Hickey for his take on the headline changes, and whether or not David Seymour’s earlier commentary that his colleague Brooke
Let the Budget battles commence
Let the Budget battles commence May 15, 2025 2021 Fresh off a pre-Budget speech that took aim at the recent changes to pay equity, Labour Party leader Chris Hipkins joins Bernard Hickey to discuss the government’s plans to cut $4.4 billion of spending over the next four years. What are the potential downsides of Nicola Willis’ austerity approach to budget management? What other types of debt might we be accruing without realising it? Listen in to
Warmer, drier - and cheaper in the long run
Warmer, drier - and cheaper in the long run May 8, 2025 1616 In 2010, the NZ Green Building Council introduced the Homestar sustainability certification, a framework that aims to allow designers, architects and builders to build better, more environmentally friendly, energy efficient housing. The upfront cost of building to the Homestar certification can be more, but the potential savings over time - not to mention the quality of life improvements - are sig
Housing market psychology 101
Housing market psychology 101 May 1, 2025 1591 This week, Bernard Hickey dives into the psychology of the housing market and talks to realestate.co.nz CEO Sarah Wood about why so many home sellers are holding on and simply not selling, rather than lowering their price to “meet the market” and “clear the market” in a way other markets do when there’s too much supply and not enough demand. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adc
How do we create the ‘2degrees Effect’ for supermarkets, banking and electricity?
How do we create the ‘2degrees Effect’ for supermarkets, banking and electricity? Apr 24, 2025 2224 More than half of consumer spending is dominated one way or another by a collection of monopolies, duopolies and quadropolies that generate higher prices and profits than would be normal if there was true and tough competition, as a myriad of market studies and inquiries have found for supermarkets, fuel retailing, building materials, electricity, banking, insurance and real estate agencies. Twent

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