Between Two Beers Podcast
Steve and Seamus, friends for over 20 years, host a podcast where they ask good questions and enjoy a few beers. They interview a wide range of interesting people, from Kiwi legends like Marc Ellis to media personalities, rugby coaches, sexologists, and Olympians. The show features incredible stories, career highs and lows, and moments of raw vulnerability, all recorded at the One NZ Studio.
Episodes
Mike King: Comedy, Rock Bottom & the Truth About I Am Hope
Content warning: This episode contains frank discussion of addiction, depression, suicide and self-harm, and may not be suitable for all listeners. Please take care while listening. Support details are at the end of this description.Mike King is one of the most recognisable figures in New Zealand. Comedian, broadcaster, mental health campaigner, former New Zealander of the Year: he's been all
One NZ Warriors CEO Cam George on 2026 Season, A Tribute to Becki Ross & Why We Turn Down Politicians
Content note: this contains a tribute to our friend and former guest Becki Ross and touches on assisted dying - please listen with care.In this one: we open by accidentally reading each other's minds (one name, one count of three - you'll hear it). Steve buys a TV with five kids in tow and zero research, we settle who actually owes who a dump-run favour, and we take the Almighty crew on a
Nathan Fa'avae: New Zealand's Greatest Adventure Racer
He's one of New Zealand's greatest ever athletes - 7x Adventure Racing World Championships, a decade unbeaten on the biggest races on the planet, and a record-breaking 1,000-mile paddle down the Yukon. And he's done all of it with a heart condition.But this conversation goes way past the trophy cabinet. Nathan Fa'avae takes us from a lonely Pasifika kid in 1970s Nelson to the start
Seamus & Di Foster 1:1: How to Find Your Voice & Learn to Say No
Di sits down one on one with Seamus for an honest session about the thing he finds hardest: using his voice.They get into why he defaults to making everyone else okay at his own expense, where that started (being the youngest, and a childhood of "seen and not heard"), and the real cost of staying quiet when speaking up would save time, money and energy.Then there's the idea Di keeps
Gilbert Enoka: The All Blacks' Mind Coach on Pressure, Loss & What Actually Builds a Team (Re-Release)
Gilbert Enoka is back with the All Blacks. After 23 years and 304 tests as their mental skills coach - two World Cup wins along the way - he stepped away in 2023, worked with Chelsea and England cricket, and has now returned to the team as leadership and mental performance coach ahead of the 2027 World Cup.This is a big one, recorded during his time away. The first half is the man: a childhood in
The Halberg Golf Day, Embarrassing Hobbies & Questions for a Sexologist
Steve reports back from the inaugural Halberg Golf Day at Royal Auckland - a celebrity auction, a plus-handicap playing partner, a 21-under round and a great cause. Meanwhile the office golf simulator is quietly destroying everyone's productivity.Dave Wood's back on the show, and the boys are stuck in the gap between knowing the right thing to do and actually doing it - see: the kettlebell
Dave Wood: Be Your Own Voice - Pressure, Performance & Knowing When to Pull Back
The thing that gets you to the top is rarely the thing that keeps you there. Dave Wood is the first guest ever invited back on Between Two Beers three times. A former lifeguard and intensive care paramedic, he turned his own battle with chronic pain into a career as one of the world's leading voices on stress, mindset and human performance — working with elite athletes and some of the country's bi
We Asked Geoff Ross & Grant Baker What They'd Do With Our Business
Steve, Seamus and Di sat down with two former Between Two Beers guests - Geoff Ross and Grant Baker, the founders behind 42 Below, Moa, Trilogy and Ecoya - and asked them one question: what would you do with the audience we have?This episode is the debrief. The three of them unpack what came out of that room: why "trap money" killed a deal they were considering, why two people who've built a drink
Gloria Masters: Surviving Child Abuse, the Signs Every Parent Should Know & Finding Hope
The silent epidemic harming Kiwi kids - and the survivor determined to end it.For the first sixteen years of her life, Gloria Masters endured abuse most New Zealanders would refuse to believe happens here. She survived - and went on to become a teacher, a child psychotherapist and a communications trainer, dedicating her life to breaking the silence around child sexual abuse and giving parents the
Mark Law Returns to Answer Your Questions, Our Office Golf Simulator & Kane Williamson Live
The boys are back behind the scenes of Between Two Beers. This week a golf simulator lands in the office, the Kane Williamson live podcast at Made, a debrief on meeting Grant Baker and Jeff Ross, Father's Day as a new dad, and Between Two Bets.Plus Mark Law returns three weeks on from his episode - the book selling out through five reprints, where things sit with the fine, the Givealittle campaign
Louis Davis: NZ's Biggest Content Creator on Belief, Fatherhood & Living Off the Land
Louis Davis is the biggest content creator in New Zealand - 3.8 million followers, 3.5 billion views in a year, and TikTok Creator of the Year. But the numbers are, in his words, background noise.In this episode he takes us back to where it started: a kid from Te Tai Tokerau whose mother told him at five that his words would change the world, a father who showed him what it means to love your fami
How Marcus Logan Built a 10-Person Agency from 0 - Niching, Balance & Hiring
Every founder hits the point where the business stops being something they do and becomes who they are. Marcus Logan - "Marketing Marcus" - built his agency from a one-man band to a team of ten, and in this one-on-one with business coach Di Foster he gets honest about what that actually costs.No boys in the studio this time - just Marcus and Di comparing notes on the things founders don't say out
Gemma McCaw on Olympic Career, Motherhood, Identity & Leaving Richie McCaw on Seen
Gemma McCaw has played over 250 times for New Zealand and been to three Olympic Games - but this conversation is about who she is when the hockey stops.In a rare long-form sit-down, Gemma opens up on the reality behind high-performance sport, the grind and the near-misses, and what it took to be okay with herself beyond the medals.She talks honestly about motherhood and the invisible load mothers
Checking In With Nate Alley: 500 Messages, 10 Weeks On & a Proud-Dad Moment With Kiwi Music Legends
Behind the scenes on a big week: Steve's son takes the stage at Clarence St Theatre in Hamilton, sharing the bill with some of New Zealand's best-known musicians - a proud-dad night to remember. Plus a Thunder Donk session that shaped a Monday, and a Saturday-morning football stand-off over throw-ins.Then a proper catch-up with Nate Alley, ten weeks on from his episode. He figured a handful of peo
Mark Law: SAS Soldier on Surviving Death Six Times & The White Island Rescue
Mark Law passed New Zealand SAS selection at 18 - the youngest ever to do it - and his life since has read like fiction.In this episode we trace the whole arc: a rugged Whangamōmona childhood, the New Zealand and British SAS, private security work in war-torn Angola, and a string of near-death experiences that would have ended most lives - a parachute that opened at 60 metres, an ambush he barely
The Marketer Behind Between Two Beers - Marcus Logan on Social Media for Businesses in 2026
The first-ever guest steps into the Accidental Business Owners studio - and it's the man who markets our show, and who’s content you see on our social media channels.Marcus Logan (aka "Marketing Marcus") runs Sapiens, the agency behind Between Two Beers and a stable of NZ's biggest podcasts. In 2026 so far, his team has driven 75 million views for Between Two Beers across social media and YouTube.
Sean Fitzpatrick: Winning in South Africa, Jonah Lomu & Leading the All Blacks (Re-Release)
Sean Fitzpatrick is one of the most decorated All Blacks of all time. A World Cup winner, one of the game's great captains, and the man who led the last New Zealand side to tour South Africa and win a series there.With the All Blacks back in South Africa for the first full tour in 30 years, there's no better time to hear it from the man who did it.We sat down with Fitzy for a wide-ranging yarn: th
Israel Dagg Checks In, MC'ing for John Key Goes Wrong & A New SAS Guest on the Way!
Two weeks ago, Israel Dagg sat down for what's become one of the biggest episodes we've ever released, and it turned his fortnight upside down.So we brought him back to find out what all of that has actually been like: the messages from players he hadn't heard from in years, the days he had to switch his phone off, and why he'd still tell anyone in a dark place the same thing.This is the first of
Grant Baker: The Business of Going All In - 42 Below, Turners & Liam Lawson
Grant Baker started with nothing - biking to sales meetings and hiding the bike around the corner so clients wouldn't know he couldn't afford a car.He'd go on to build and sell some of New Zealand's best-known companies: 42 Below vodka (sold to Bacardi for $138M), skincare giant Trilogy, and the automotive empire now known as Turners.In this episode he tells the full story of going all in - sellin
Auditing Our Own Podcast - What the Whole Team Told Us to Change
or the first time in seven years, we got the whole team in one room and did something uncomfortable: we audited our own podcast.Eight people, one question on the table - if we rebuilt this from scratch, what would it actually be? What came out of it changed how we think about nearly everything we make.We sit down with Di Foster to work through what's changing and why: why "platform-driven content"
Living with Incurable Cancer: Becki Ross on Planning Her Own Funeral & Learning “Not to Give a Sh*t"
Becki Ross was given two to three years to live. Diagnosed at 42 with stage four, incurable bowel cancer, she's a mum of two teenagers, a teacher, and one of those rare people who lights up a room the second she walks in.When we recorded this, Becki had just been told her treatment options had run out - that the cancer was, in her words, "declaring itself," and that her time is now very short.In o
Behind the Izzy Dagg Episode & Our New Dream Guest List (Post-Graham Norton)
Steven and Seamus go behind the scenes of the Izzy Dagg episode that's gone massive - the research calls, why Izzy almost didn't tell his story, and the reaction that's followed since.Plus: the new dream guest list - who's next after Graham Norton - a big week for the team, emceeing the Master Builders House of the Year awards, and commentating Auckland FC v Tottenham.A very special episode drops
Israel Dagg Comes Clean on Addiction, Depression & Getting Sober After Rock Bottom
Israel Dagg had everything he'd ever chased - a Rugby World Cup, a young family, the life a kid from a Hawke's Bay state house could only dream of. Then he retired, and the question underneath it all hit at once: “if I'm not an All Black, who am I?”In one of the most open conversations we've had on the show, Israel comes clean on the five years that followed - the addiction, the depression, and th
“Is This Still the Dream?” - Consolidating, Stepping Back & Building the Team
We are back from the World Cup with a case of post-event blues and a bigger question: we built our dream - but, is it still the dream?In this consolidation episode, we share our lists about what we want the next two and a half years to look like - and discover how closely aligned we’ve become. Di digs into what "important" means now that the podcast is commercially sound, why neither of us is a na
Justine Smith on 7 Days, Surviving as a Female Comedian & Her Incredible Adoption Story
Justine Smith has been a fixture of New Zealand comedy for more than 30 years - a Seven Days regular and one of the few women who lasted in a room that pushed most others out.She opens up on the comedy environment younger women were up against, the treatment she swallowed to keep going, and how she turned that guilt into becoming the person the next generation of female comics now comes to. She's
The Graham Norton Debrief, World Cup Conspiracies & Why New Dads Are a Spare Part
We debrief on Seamus' dream guest, Graham Norton - with Sammy and Char on the mics to break down how it went, and how dusty Steve was at the 5.30am start.Then the boys dig into whether there's anything to the Argentina World Cup conspiracy doing the rounds, before Steve gets Che’s take on surviving the school holidays and the "spare part" phase of early parenting (plus the questions kids fire at y
Graham Norton: The Hidden Psychology of the World's Biggest Chat Show & What Success Really Means
He's spent nearly 30 years getting the world's biggest stars to open up - but Graham Norton rarely sits on the other side of the mic.The most famous chat show host on the planet pulls back the curtain on his craft: the psychology of who sits where on that famous sofa, why the guests always outrank him, and the research ritual that's funnier than the show itself.He also goes somewhere he almost nev
The World Cup Debrief: What Went Well, What Didn’t & What We'd Do Again
You can pour everything into the biggest thing you'll ever build - and still find the part you remember has nothing to do with the work.Fresh off three weeks at the FIFA World Cup in North America, Steven and Seamus sit down with their business coach Di Foster for a proper mid-year debrief: the enormity of what they pulled off (19 daily shows, four partners, a whole TV operation), the studio they
Golden State Warriors Psychologist Scott Goldman: The Science of Winning
He's got a championship ring his own kids have never seen - it lives in a closet.Scott Goldman is a high-performance psychologist who's spent 30 years inside some of the biggest teams in world sport, including the Golden State Warriors, and works across five professional franchises at once.His whole philosophy flips how you think about success: you're not your talent, you're your talent times your
Our Chaotic World Cup Tour, A 6am Graham Norton Podcast & Catching up with Steven Adams
The boys are back on home soil to unpack the most chaotic three weeks of the show's life.They relive the Radio & Podcast Awards and unpack the World Cup experience: 19 daily shows in a row for Between Two Goals, the flying Kiwis march to the Egypt game, Finn Surman's header, and 45 minutes of the best football either of them has ever watched - before the Belgium reality check.Along the way: a
Jason Gunn: What a Heart Attack Taught Him About Success, Family & Grief (Re-Release)
Jason Gunn is one of New Zealand's most beloved entertainers - but behind the energy, the warmth, and the laugh, is a man who has faced some of life's hardest moments.In this episode, Jase opens up about suffering a heart attack at 47, and the moment lying in a hospital bed when his life's priorities became crystal clear. He talks about his son Louis - then a teenager - ripping up his radio contra
“What Are You Actually Building This For?” Seamus & Di’s Emotional 1:1
Seamus arrives feeling it: New baby at home. A World Cup project about to go live. A calendar that was built before either of those things was certain, now collapsing on top of each other.He's saying yes to everything - commentary gigs, MC slots, the lot. And somewhere underneath all of it, he's saying no to the people who matter most without realising that's what he's doing.This one covers the pr
Rob Cope: What Parents Don't Know About Keeping Kids Safe in 2026
Rob Cope has spoken to over 40,000 New Zealand parents about the dangers hiding in their children's online world.In this episode, he delivers the talk every parent needs to hear - and pulls no punches doing it.They cover the reality of what kids are accessing online, why good kids in good homes aren't protected, the neuroscience of screen addiction, what the government is getting wrong, practical
All Whites vs Iran: Watching History from Inside the World Cup
New Zealand drew 2-2 with Iran in one of the great All Whites performances - scoring twice, leading twice, and finishing top of Group G on goal difference. Eli Just became the first All White to score twice at a World Cup.Steve and Seamus were inside SoFi Stadium in LA when it happened. This episode, recorded the morning after, is their unfiltered reaction from the ground - what the game felt like
Inside the Polkinghorne Case & the Mind of NZ's Greatest Writer - Steve Braunias
Steve Braunias sat through every day of the Polkinghorne trial - the society murder that gripped New Zealand - and wrote the bestselling book on it. He liked the accused. He chatted with him every morning. And he more than entertains the possibility that Phil Polkinghorne is an innocent man.In this episode, Steve takes us inside the eight weeks that felt like "a carnival": the forensic evidence th
Our Business Coach Quits On-Air? Why Fun Is the Strategy Right Now
Di Foster arrived ready to coach. Then she realised the smartest coaching move was to stop coaching.In this episode she explains why: Between Two Beers is in ‘execution season’, and what sport understands about seasons and rhythms is something most businesses never name.We get into why Steve and Seamus are slightly misaligned on what they really want, the delegation trap of "it takes 2 minutes to
Futurist Frances Valintine: NZ's Looming Demographic Crisis & the Future of Work
Futurist Frances Valintine (founder of Academy X and Tech Futures Lab) joins the show to map what New Zealand actually looks like in twenty years, and it's a sobering picture.We're one of the fastest-changing populations on earth: ageing fast, with a birth rate well below replacement and a workforce shrinking from four people per retiree toward just two. Her warning is that we're already late to p
Exclusive Access to Tim Payne? Our Football World Cup Trip Shapes Up
The boys are back behind the scenes, and the World Cup is almost here.Seamus and Steve break down the wild Tim Payne phenomenon - how an All Whites right-back with 4,000 followers became bigger than the All Blacks in 48 hours after an Argentinian content creator made him the face of the tournament.Seamus has known Tim since he was 16, and with Between Two Goals heading into the exact camp that's n
Matthew Ridge Tells All: Wrongful Conviction, Addiction & Working with Marc Ellis (Re-Release)
Matthew Ridge is one of New Zealand's most recognisable sporting figures - All Blacks captain, NRL star, television personality. But behind the swagger and the highlights reel is a story most people have never heard.Originally released in 2024 and one of our most popular episodes, we're bringing this one back because it deserves to be heard again.Ridgey sits down with Steve and Seamus to tell it a
“Don’t Believe You Own BS!” - Behind the Scenes of the World Cup, TVNZ Deal & Steven Adams
It’s been our biggest six months ever - landing on TVNZ+, heading to the World Cup, and sitting down with Steven Adams.Steve and Seamus sit down with business and mindset coach Di Foster to pull back the curtain on how it all actually came together, the chaos behind the scenes, and what it really takes to turn a podcast into a mainstream media brand.They break down the TVNZ deal, how they landed f
Darren Shand: 20 Years Inside the All Blacks' Golden Era
For 20 years, Darren Shand was the most powerful person in All Blacks rugby that nobody knew about.As Team Manager across four Rugby World Cups - including the back-to-back title wins of 2011 and 2015 - Shand sat above the coaches, managed the operation, and helped build the cultural architecture of the most successful international rugby team in history.He worked alongside Sir Graham Henry, Sir S
We're Going to the Football World Cup with the All Whites!
This week on Hambassadors, Steve and Seamus reveal their biggest project yet: a dedicated All Whites fan show heading to Vancouver for the FIFA World Cup.They're going in camp with the team, bringing the families, and building something that hasn't been done before in New Zealand sports media.Also this week: a behind-the-scenes look at the Joseph Parker x Barkers event (with some Chatham House rul
Stacey Morrison: The Te Reo Journey She Almost Quit, Losing Her Mum & 30 Years of NZ Media Unfiltered
Stacey Morrison has been a fixture of New Zealand television and radio for thirty years - but this is the story behind the story.In this episode she opens up about growing up embarrassed by her Māori identity, a gruelling fifteen year journey to te reo fluency, the heartbreaking loss of her mum Sue, and finding the love she never thought she'd have with Scotty Morrison.Between Two Beers is proudly
Is Being a 'Good Bugger' Enough? Values, Identity & the Team Behind the Vision
Steve sits down with our business and mindset coach Di Foster for a candid 1:1 coaching session.They get into what it really means to be a 'good bugger' in business, whether values alone are enough to build something lasting, and the identity shift that happens when your business starts moving faster than you expected.They also tackle the team question - why having the right people around you isn'
Nate Alley: Growing Up Without a Dad, Driving $200M in Construction & Why He Nearly Lost It All
Nate Alley grew up in Tokoroa without a father, got kicked out of school at 16, and spent the better part of a decade angry, lost, and making decisions he's not proud of.Today he runs his own Sentinel Homes franchise in the Waikato, with nearly 200 million dollars in construction work completed over the last decade.In this episode Nate speaks publicly for the first time about his upbringing, a fai
Steven Adams Goes Viral, Our Football World Cup Announcement & Lost Wedding Rings
The Steven Adams episode has gone global. NBA Twitter picked it up, US news sites started writing stories, and the clip of Steven's journaling practice has racked up millions of views. Steve and Che take you behind the scenes of watching it snowball in real time, from the 3am Instagram collab to waking up to floods of comments and mentions.Plus, we make it official: Between Two Beers is going to t
How Steven Adams Accidentally Became The NBA's Most Beloved Star (Exclusive)
In the most personal interview of his career, New Zealand's most beloved NBA export Steven Adams sits down with Between Two Beers exclusively to tell his full story.From growing up the youngest of 14 in Rotorua, losing his father at 13, and never dreaming of the NBA - to rookie years alongside Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and James Harden at the Oklahoma City Thunder, the infamous Draymond Gree
How a Cold Email Landed One NZ as Our Biggest Sponsor
Steve cold emailed Jason Paris, the CEO of One New Zealand. He replied in three minutes. In this episode, Seamus and Steve sit down with business coach Di Foster to unpack what landing the biggest naming rights deal in Between Two Beers history actually means for the business, and what it exposes about everything they still haven't figured out.Di doesn't let the celebration last long. With a One N
Stacey Jones: 27 Years as a Warrior, 2002 Grand Final Regrets & The Pre-Game Ritual He Kept Secret
Stacey Jones has given 27 years to the Warriors - from foundation player to the coaching staff helping build the next generation.In this episode, he opens up on the try that still haunts him from the 2002 NRL grand final, what it meant to be a household name in New Zealand before social media existed, and why he's never left the Wahs.Steve and Seamus are proud to be dressed by Barkers. Hosted on A
We Landed Steven Adams... Behind The Scenes of Our Biggest Episode
We landed him. Steven Adams, New Zealand's most beloved basketball export and our number one dream guest for years, is coming to Between Two Beers.In this episode of Hambassadors, Seamus and Steve take you behind the scenes of the biggest week in the podcast’s history. Four recordings in six days, a surprise Easter weekend email that changed everything, eight steaks on order, and two and a half ho
Raelene Castle: The NRL's First Female CEO & NZ's Most Powerful Sports Executive (Re-Release)
She ran the Bulldogs, steered Australia Rugby through one of their biggest controversies, and led NZ sport through its toughest years.So why don't more people know the real Raelene Castle?In this episode we sit down with one of the most significant sports executives the southern hemisphere has ever produced - and discover that the woman behind the headlines is nothing like the one in them.We cover
We Smashed Our Goals... Then Got A Reality Check
Steve and Seamus sit down with coach Di Foster for their unofficial Q1 review - and it's a big one. New naming sponsor (they can't tell you who yet), a TV deal in the works, and their first ever full-time hire. On paper, the best quarter Between Two Beers has ever had.But Di isn't letting them off that easy.In this episode: why securing long-term partnerships changes everything, the embarrassing p
Dai Henwood: What Facing Death Is Teaching Me About Life
In April 2020, during lockdown, Dai Henwood received a terminal cancer diagnosis. He kept it hidden. He kept doing stand-up. He kept doing interviews. He kept being Dai Henwood, while privately getting to grips with something nobody in his family had ever faced before.Four and a half years after his first appearance on the show, he sits back down with Steve and Seamus.Dai walks us through 52 round
Kieran Read's ‘Iron Gate' Explained, All Whites Brilliance & Steve’s Perspective Shifts
Behind the scenes of Between Two Beers this week, Steve and Seamus break down the Kieran Read shirt scandal that has gripped our viewers, reflect on driving the former All Blacks captain to his parents' place, and tease what might be their most powerful episode yet.Dai Henwood returns to the show - 52 rounds of chemo, eight surgeries, and a conversation about life, death, and what actually matters
Kieran Read: The World Cup Final Call, Replacing Richie McCaw & Why He's Just Getting Started
Kieran Read is one of the greatest All Blacks of all time. Two-time World Cup winner, Crusaders legend, and the man who replaced Richie McCaw as captain with 800 tests of combined experience suddenly out the door.But four years on from his first appearance on Between Two Beers, the most interesting chapter of Kieran's story is only just beginning.In this episode we get into the leadership journey
Our Plan to 5x Revenue in 3 Years
Steve and Seamus sit down with their business coach Di for their first session of 2026 - and they're not holding back.On the table: a plan to 5x revenue in three years, double their audience in twelve months, and finally build the team around them that the business actually needs.They get into why growing your audience doesn't pay off in the same year, why neither of them are natural team builders
The Forensic Scientist Who Investigated 160 Murders & Lost Himself in the Process: Ruben Miller
Ruben Miller spent 22 years as a forensic scientist in New Zealand, working on more than 160 homicide investigations. This is the story of what it cost him.In this episode we talk about what it actually feels like to walk into a homicide scene, the forensic principle that guides every investigation, the case that still hasn't left him, and what two decades of witnessing violence quietly does to a
A Day with Kieran Read & Why We Broke Up with Chat GPT for Claude
Have you made the switch from ChatGPT to Claude yet?Steve and Che did - and they're not going back.In this week's Hambassadors they break down why they ditched ChatGPT, what Claude is actually doing for their business, and why one of them still can't bring himself to fully commit.Plus: the truth about what happens in the studio before guests arrive, Che’s horror dentist bill, going solo at Homegro
Melie Kerr on White Ferns Captaincy & How Her Family Saved Her Life
Melie Kerr joins us fresh off being named White Ferns captain across all formats and scoring a T20 century on captaincy debut - the first woman ever to do so.But this episode goes well beyond cricket.Growing up in one of New Zealand's most celebrated cricket families, Melie was the kid who made her dad commentate 7am net sessions as if she was playing in a World Cup final. She went on to become th
Having a Baby, Buying a House & Getting Married: Seamus' Life Changing 2025
Che and Di sit down for a one-on-one to go through the 2026 goals - but this is the episode they couldn't record until now.A new baby. A house. A marriage. The past few months have changed everything for Che, and in this episode he and Di work through what that actually means for his personal and professional life heading into the year ahead.They cover the weight goal (and the moment Che realised
Liam Messam: Adoption, Chiefs Mana & Why He's In Gilbert Enoka's 'Human Library'
Liam Messam is one of the most beloved figures in New Zealand rugby. Two-time Super Rugby champion, All Black, World Cup winner, and a 20-year servant of the Chiefs. But behind the jersey is a story most people have never heard.Adopted at six weeks old into a Rotorua family that went on to foster close to a thousand children, Liam opens up about identity, belonging, and the household that gave him
90s & 2000s High School Nostalgia, Susan Hassall & Two Big Guest Announcements
Having our former headmaster Susan Hassall on the podcast sent us deep down memory lane.We go deep on NZ tuck shop nostalgia - the Juicies, the pies, the Cookie Time ritual - school discos, balls, prefects, wagging on a scooter, and what made Hamilton Boys' High so special.We also reflect on the response to the Susan Hassall episode, the 300,000 views on the trailer alone, the floods of comments f
Susan Hassall, Headmaster of 20,000+ Boys: What Nobody Tells You About Raising Sons
Susan Hassall arrived at Hamilton Boys' High School in 1979 as a 22-year-old English teacher. She stayed for 46 years. In 1999, she became the first woman in New Zealand to be appointed headmaster of a boys' state school — a role she held for exactly 25 years.In this conversation, Susan shares what she's learned about love, leadership, loss, and what it takes to raise good men. We talk about her m
Mike Minogue Joins Us for a Big Announcement!
In this special episode of Accidental Business Owners, we welcome our first-ever guest to the show: actor, radio host, and entrepreneur Mike Minogue!Two years ago, after appearing on the Between Two Beers podcast, Mike pitched us an idea that seemed too good to refuse: creating a corporate speaking bureau featuring our podcast guests. We launched B2B Speakers, and it was an immediate hit.But today
Tim Brown (Allbirds Co-Founder): From All White to Wall Street
Tim Brown is best known as the co-founder of Allbirds - the New Zealand-born footwear brand that became a global phenomenon.But before Silicon Valley, before the IPO, and before building one of the world’s most recognisable sustainable fashion brands, Tim was an All White, representing New Zealand on the world stage.At just 31 years old, still in his prime, he made a decision that shocked many: he
BTS of the Halberg Awards & Dr Lucy Hone's Message Goes Viral
In this episode of Hambassadors, we take you behind the scenes of a chaotic fortnight.Steve confesses to messing up the opening line of the Halberg Awards and embarking on the world's longest, most stressful ad-lib in front of a live audience.Seamus (a former goalkeeper) breaks down the "Phoenix Nightmare" - THAT viral own goal by Josh Oluwayemi - and explains why he wanted the ground to swallow h
Brad Thorn: Born to Wear the Black Jersey
Brad Thorn is one of the most unique champions New Zealand sport has ever produced.A dual-code legend, Brad achieved what almost no one has - winning NRL premierships, World Cups, Super Rugby titles, and earning the right to wear the All Blacks jersey at the highest level.But behind the trophies is an obsession with discipline, standards, and doing the work that others won’t. In this conversation,
Why Are We So Bad at Setting Goals?
We’re kicking off 2026 with a big change! Di walks into the studio with a completely shaved head, addressing the "elephant in the room" immediately.But this episode isn't just about the new look - it’s about looking forward. Di introduces the "10,000 Days" framework: the idea that at mid-life, we have roughly 10,000 days left to live. The question isn't just what your net worth will be when you're
Dr Lucy Hone: Grief, Resilience & Losing a Child
This episode includes discussion of grief, loss, and mental health, which some listeners may find distressing.Dr Lucy Hone is one of the world’s leading voices on grief, resilience, and how humans survive life’s hardest moments.In this episode, Lucy shares the tools and insights she’s developed through her work in resilience psychology - and through personal tragedy, after losing her 12-year-old d
Our Biggest Parenting Fails & We Try A Sensory Deprivation Float
In this episode of Hambassadors, things get way too honest. Steve finally confesses to his most embarrassing "new dad" moment involving a big night out and a change table, while Seamus opens up about separation anxiety.Plus, we break down the absolute scenes from the Horgan Cup golf tournament, where Seamus managed to get New Zealand legends like Mark Ellis, Matthew Ridge, Patty Gower, and Ryan Fo
Warriors CEO, Cameron George: The 1,038-Day Covid Exile That Forged the Club
This week on Between Two Beers, we sit down with Cameron George, the CEO of the New Zealand Warriors.Cameron is one of the most influential figures in modern New Zealand sport - and in this conversation, he opens up like never before about the journey that shaped him, and the brutal years that nearly broke the club.We dive deep into the Warriors’ extraordinary 1,038-day COVID exile, the personal t
Te Radar on Off The Radar, Curiosity & What Makes NZ Different
Te Radar is one of New Zealand’s most distinctive storytellers, but his career never followed a plan.From anarchic comedy and improvisation to the runaway success of Off The Radar, this conversation explores how curiosity, chance, and saying “yes” shaped a life in television, documentary-making, and storytelling.In this episode of Between Two Beers, Te Radar reflects on growing up curious, the mom
Popped Collar Debate, Dad Life & NZ’s Best Sporting Moment of 2025?
Welcome back to another episode of Hmbassadors!This week, Seamus gives a six-week update on his new life as a dad, Steve reflects on life with four kids and why his memory is officially "cooked" after a few serious petrol station run-ins - plus, the great debate of 2026 continues. Could it be the end of us?We also recap our recent "Re-ignite" studio opening before diving into a massive sports segm
Owen Eastwood: The Unconventional Kiwi Coaching The World's Greatest Teams
He is the secret weapon behind Chelsea FC, the England Football team, the South African Proteas, and NATO’s Command Group. Yet, Owen Eastwood has no coaching qualifications, describes himself as an "imposter," and often refuses to watch the actual games his teams play.In this episode, we sit down with the most in-demand performance coach you’ve never heard of.We discuss the "mystical" session wher
Mike McRoberts: The Toll of the 6pm News
For years, Mike McRoberts was the most recognisable and trusted face on New Zealand television, sitting at the 6pm news desk, delivering the biggest stories in the country. What most people never saw was where that job took him.In this episode of Between Two Beers, Mike opens up about reporting from war zones, covering humanitarian disasters, and what it actually took - mentally and emotionally -
Who’s Our Ultimate Guest? Exposing our 2026 Wish List
Welcome back to a brand-new year of Hambassadors! We're kicking off 2026 with some "edgy" fashion choices, high-stakes goals, and a look at the guests we're manifesting for the year ahead.In this episode, Seamus explains why he’s bringing back the Eric Cantona-inspired popped collar (and whether he cleared it with Barkers first). Meanwhile, Stephen shares a harrowing New Year’s Eve tale from Whang
Greg Foran: Former CEO of Air NZ & Walmart US on Decisions That Affect Millions (Re-Release)
Greg Foran has led at a level very few people ever will.From running Walmart US - a business with over a million employees - to serving as CEO of Air New Zealand through some of its most challenging years, Greg has made decisions where the consequences affected millions of people.In this conversation, Greg takes us inside what that responsibility actually feels like. We talk about making calls tha
Ali Williams' Best All Blacks Stories, Launching Auckland FC & Losing His Father (Re-Release)
This week we’re re-releasing a classic episode with All Black legend Ali Williams, initially recorded in 2024.At the time of recording, Ali had recently launched Auckland FC with his wife Anna Mowbray, so we dive deep into his goals and vision for the team (much of which has come to fruition since). We also go into the best stories from across his rugby and All Blacks career, as well as an open co
Best of 2025 - Culture: Simon Barnett, Toni Street, Al Brown & More!
We’re back with another compilation of our favourite moments from the epic year that was 2025.This time, we’ve canvassed some highlights from our incredible guests across the realms of business, entertainment, and culture, including:Simon BarnettJay ReeveToni StreetGreg ForanBill BaileyGirls Get OffAl BrownJared SavageBrent ImpeyDr. Alia BojilovaGeoff RossWe hope you enjoy the recap and stay tuned
Best of 2025 - Sport: Steve Williams, Dame Noeline Taurua, Ryan Fox & More!
What a year! We’ve had the privilege of speaking to some of New Zealand’s best and brightest sporting stars in 2025, so we’re proud to present a compilation of some of our favourite moments from across the year, including:Steve WilliamsRyan FoxDame Noeline TauruaIan FosterMarius van der PolSarah WalkerSean FitzpatrickGilbert EnokaClayton McMillanGordon WalkerWe hope you enjoy the recap, stay tuned
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